It looks like our boys in blue have screwed up their chances of maintaining a ban on handguns.
I agree with the line taken by the Irish Times in this case.
With proper vetting of gun owners, there is no need for a handgun ban.
Gun licence test cases adjourned over claims of altered applications - The Irish Times - Wed, Jan 25, 2012
But, this exposure of odd practices by the Garda authorities is not good at all for their image.
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The Gardaí should not be let near guns until there is a proper functioning Garda Ombundsman and not the puppet there is at present.
Feel free to read the OP in the future...Originally Posted by RobertW
the garda wouldnt need to be involved in the vetting as theyre one of the most corrupt forces on the planet
Or even just the article attached to it. Jesus wept like
If you're the first out the door, that's not called panicking.
The people need the guns, not the government.
***Ron Paul For President 2012***
As someone raised in a family that has been the core of a local gunclub in Ireland for 50 years, I vehemently oppose private ownership of handguns.It looks like our boys in blue have screwed up their chances of maintaining a ban on handguns.
I agree with the line taken by the Irish Times in this case.
With proper vetting of gun owners, there is no need for a handgun ban.
Gun licence test cases adjourned over claims of altered applications - The Irish Times - Wed, Jan 25, 2012
But, this exposure of odd practices by the Garda authorities is not good at all for their image.
Handguns should only be allowed in target practice ranges, under very strict guidelines, under the control of the military or gardai response unit. There is no excuse for a handgun being in the home.
Handguns have no place in hunting, farm protection against vermin or the home.
The only guns that should be allowed in the home should be shotguns for which there is a place in hunting, vermin control and if necessary to repel an intruder.
I have known people in various countries who have handguns at home and I think out of the numerous people I have met who do own them, I only thought one of them should have been allowed to have them and he was a serious weapon collector. In my experience handguns tend to appeal to gun nuts, people who think they are hard men, criminals and complete and utter morons.
I would make an exemption for people involved in target shooting who can be proven to be taking part in competitions, but would prefer that there pistols be kept at a firing range or Gardai station when not in use. I would support yearly eyesight and medical review for them and revoke licences if they show any signs of mental disorders.
Also I do firmly believe that the guidelines for who owns a rifle in Ireland needs to be tightened up considerably. I know of too many halfwits who should not be allowed out on there own, let alone having a .22-09 in the house.
Another thing that really needs to be tightened up as a national priority is the Gardai checking of gun clubs issueing gun club cards. A lot of morons do not pay there renewal to gun clubs the year after in some areas where there are lazy gardai sargents who do not do the proper checks. I know some will claim I am talking sh*t on that one, but others here who are members of gun clubs, will know full well what I am talking about.
If anyone does not pay there gun club dues the next year, the Gardai should not have to be called about 50 times by the gun club before reacting, if they even do. The Gardai should react upon first notification and seize the weapon.
Also Gardai inspectors need to get into the heads of there sargents that just because they drink in a pub with someone, play gaelic, play hurling, is a friend of the priest, etc, does not mean that person is fit to carry a gun.
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I posted a general statement about the Gardaí and guns - I'm not too concerned about the OP or article to be perfectly honest!Or even just the article attached to it. Jesus wept like
What is a .22-09?
Why do you say handguns are not suitable for home defence?
Surely they are the most suitable gunds for home defense?
.22-09: Type of .22 rifle. It was the maximum limit for rifles in Ireland some years ago. Not sure if it still is as I have not done any gunclub paperwork for dad in years.
Handguns are more likely to result in someone in the home being injured or a kid getting there hands on them, than anything else. I refer you to the USA for evidence of that.
I could do more damage with two number BB cartidges than you could with an entire magazine in a browning 9mm. Then again I was raised around shotguns as was my mum who is a brilliant shot.
One of the shotguns in my fathers home is unchocked. A slug can do more damage than a 50 calibre bullet.
There is nearly always a box of BB cartidges in our gun cabinet and a couple of slugs which were bought years ago for reasons I never understood and never used, as there are no dinosaurs in Donegal.
Does your average thief breaking into a home wear armour from a Tiger Tank? If not they would be cut in two by a slug which would go through a bullet proof jacket as though it was crepe paper. A bullet proof jacket would only cause a slug to flatten out a bit, as it went through it, making it do even more damage to the person it was hitting. A slug hitting an arm or leg would disintegrate that part of the arm or leg, ripping it off and if it hit the chest, would excavate the entire chest cavity. The possibility of surviving a direct hit from a slug would be about zero.
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