57Likes
LinkBack URL
About LinkBacksIt costs over €80,000 a year to keep someone in prison. Do you really think it's the best answer?
It costs over €80,000 a year to keep someone in prison. Do you really think it's the best answer?
I aim to pleaseOriginally Posted by JasonMac
, I am not in favour of prison as such due to the cost 70-80K per year, too expensive. For repeat offenders some form of house arrest needs to be considered. Either that or some low cost prison solution needs to be developed.
People do realise that 23 previous convictions doesn't necessarily refer to 23 previous incidents of crime right??
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blind, I realise there's a section of our "society" that probably belongs in a big pit for the benefit of others.
But at least get the oul facts right before going off on one
If it means keeping some violent scum bag locked up so the he cannot kill or maim someone, yes its the best answer. But yes the cost is too high it could be lowered with a bit of thought, ie cheaper food etc.
The punishment was way too lenient for that Little ************************************.
I've met plenty of Finnish people before, they are probably the most decent and diligent people on the planet. The 'offender' should be castrated before he can pollute the gene pool. It's scum like him that ruin this city for the rest of us. It's scum like him that are going to ************************ up the tourist industry here if the likes of him are allowed go unchecked.
Personally, the best solution is to tie him up by the hands and feet, and then let his victim kick the crap out of him for 3 minutes let him experience the terror that his victim felt now that's what I call 'victim empathy'!
Last edited by bixter; 8th February 2012 at 04:17 PM.
Nope but if we could do it for, say, 5k a year then we could lock up all the violent scumbags.
There is simply no justification that I can see for it costing so much .
How many chances does this youth need? He has 23 previous convictions, so that's 23 times previously he's been warned about his behaviour.None of those 23 chances has led him to improve his behaviour, and those are only the 23 offences he's been caught for and convicted of - heaven knows how many times he's broken the law and either not been caught or sufficient evidence was not available to convict him.
He's been given previous community-based sentences which he hasn't complied with - missing appointments with probation workers, failing to turn up for training courses. Those courses might have helped him, the probation officer might have helped him, but if he doesn't turn up and doesn't try, we'll never know, will we?
I'm all for giving people a second chance, and I'm all for trying every option before people are jailed, but at some point you have to say he's been given 23 chances, and has made it clear he is not interested in complying with community-based orders.
What alternative is there to custody that hasn't already been tried and has failed? Clearly nothing tried so far has worked either as a deterrant to further crime or to help him onto the straight and narrow.
If you've been caught breaking the law 23 times previously and when you commit crime no. 24 you're still not put in custody, it's pretty clear that you've learnt at a young age that very little will happen to you if you break the law - even if you fail to comply with the court orders you're given for training and probation.
If you don't think he should be in custody, then what realistic alternative would you suggest for this young man?
Vote YES to living within our means and... er... being able to borrow even more money!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
How much has this one individual cost the crimimal justice system so far? He's been arrested 23 times. He's been put before the courts 23 times - how much has that cost in police time and court time? How much taxpayers money has been spent on legal representation for him? How much have his previous offences cost his victims? He's been given probation appointments and training courses which he's refused to turn up to - how much money does that wasted time represent? Community-based sentences don't come cheap either, and if they have no effect, then they haven't given any better value.
Prison isn't necessarily any more effective than community sentences in stopped people re-offending when they get out, but they do have the great advantage that as long as the person is in prison, they cannot commit a whole range of crimes. No other penalty can offer that guarantee.
If a known burglar is sent to prison for 1 year and stays there for 1 year, the burglary rate for that year in the local area they operate can drop dramatically. So you've spent €80,000 keeping them there, but how much would it have cost society, the taxpayer and the economy is they'd been free on a community-based sentence they didn't comply with for that 1 year and continuing burglaring hundreds of houses and businesses - all offences which would not have happened if that person had been in custody?
If there is a better answer, what is it?
Be honest - if you were his victim and you found out he had 23 previous convictions, would you be entirely happy with the sentence he's been given?
If you can honestly say you would, fair play and you're a better man or woman than I am.
I would be mightily pissed off.
Last edited by blokesbloke; 8th February 2012 at 04:25 PM.
Vote YES to living within our means and... er... being able to borrow even more money!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Seriously, your post is full of fail. Either you're trolling or you're seriously retarded. A conviction is what you get when you've been found guilty of committing a crime!Of course it means you committed a crime, ffs.
I'm 26 years old. Not a single conviction. Noone in my family has a conviction. None of my friends have a conviction. No one I know personally has a conviction, and trust me, I know many people.
This guy must've been a serious scumbag to amass all those convictions. He's obviously a recidivist, because he hasn't learned his lesson. He obviously doesn't give two ************************s about his future because he just keeps on reoffending.
Really? So what has he been convicted of which did not constitute a crime, and if his action did not constitute a crime, why was he convicted?People do realise that 23 previous convictions doesn't necessarily refer to 23 previous incidents of crime right??
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blind, I realise there's a section of our "society" that probably belongs in a big pit for the benefit of others.
But at least get the oul facts right before going off on one
The Irish justice system must be very unusual if you can be convicted of something which isn't criminal?
Last edited by blokesbloke; 8th February 2012 at 05:08 PM.
Vote YES to living within our means and... er... being able to borrow even more money!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote