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    Allegations involving McQuaid

    Irish Times has Archbishop McQuaid subject of child sex abuse complaints - The Irish Times - Thu, Dec 08, 2011

    TWO CHILD sex abuse complaints against former Catholic archbishop of Dublin John Charles McQuaid, as well as a separate “concern”, were brought to the attention of the Murphy commission, which investigated the handling of clerical child sex abuse complaints in the Dublin archdiocese.
    One complaint alleges abuse of a 12-year-old boy by Archbishop McQuaid in 1961.
    So - it looks as if this may have gone right to the top in Ireland.
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    Second Story in Irish Times about McQuaid

    McQuaid's actions aimed at avoiding scandal - without concern for young - The Irish Times - Thu, Dec 08, 2011


    Scotland Yard contacted the Garda commissioner about photographs sent by a Priest - who passed the buck to McQuaid

    In August 1960, “Archbishop McQuaid was informed that a security officer at a photographic film company in the UK had referred colour film sent to them for developing by Fr Edmondus to Scotland Yard. Scotland Yard referred the matter to the Commissioner of the Gardaí,” who referred it to Archbishop McQuaid, who noted of his meeting with Costigan the latter indicated the film involved 26 explicit transparencies of “two small girls, aged 10 or 11 years”.

    The archbishop met Fr McGennis the next day and the priest admitted taking the photographs, motivated by his curiosity about female anatomy, he said. Archbishop McQuaid noted: “I would get [a doctor] a good Catholic to instruct him and thus end his wonderment.” He concluded there was “not an objective and subjective crime of the type envisaged in the 1922 instruction and consequently that there was no need to refer the matter to the Holy Office in Rome”.
    Lord knows what else is buried deep in Church Archives.

    If Anglo could be raided looking for evidence of crimes then surely the Church Files should be seized ?
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    Did Cooney not publish a letter from Dr Noel Browne with allegations against mcquaid in his book about JCMQ?
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    That was flagged in the Pheonix many years ago, and no one believed it.
    A pub was said to be used by him for his pleasures, on major football matches in around Dorset street. It should be on record.
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    You mean that this man was a sexual deviant;



    Surely not.
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    Certainly rumours - but by the sound of this there is evidence. Eamonn McCann published part of the poem " The Congress of The Potentates" in the 90s which was to put it mildly - blunt.

    But the Anatomy and Doctor business in 1960 is jaw dropping.
    "Fr Edmondus" was convicted of abusing a little girl in the 80s.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    You mean that this man was a sexual deviant;

    Surely not.
    Absolutely.
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    About ten years ago I was in the company of a guy who had left the priesthood many years before. McQuaid came up in conversation. This guy said McQuaid's manner with people and general approach to his position suggested a taste for the theatrical, to put it mildly. Apparently he always wore boots with heels that were a little too high and had a thing for horse riding in full religious gear - soutane, flowing cape etc. This guy said it was clear as day to anyone who might have a nose for these things that McQuaid was a big Mary. Never mentioned anything as sinister as what it is suggested by these allegations mind you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    You mean that this man was a sexual deviant;



    Surely not.
    That is one dark shivering image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfCalculus View Post
    About ten years ago I was in the company of a guy who had left the priesthood many years before. McQuaid came up in conversation. This guy said McQuaid's manner with people and general approach to his position suggested a taste for the theatrical, to put it mildly. Apparently he always wore boots with heels that were a little too high and had a thing for horse riding in full religious gear - soutane, flowing cape etc. This guy said it was clear as day to anyone who might have a nose for these things that McQuaid was a big Mary. Never mentioned anything as sinister as what it is suggested by these allegations mind you.

    By a "Big Mary" I presume you mean homosexual?

    P.S. I don't see anything out of the ordinary in his boot-heels in the photograph above.

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