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    What should the Age of Consent be?

    I think the proposals to make it 16 is going too far. Idealy it should be 18, like most American States.

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    I think 16 is fine. At 16 most youngsters are intelligent enough to asses a situation.

    Before the age is lowered however, the Irish education system needs to inroduce sex education that isn't just from a Religious and Biological perspective.The youth need educating on STD's, Contraception, etc.
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    Re: What should the Age of Consent be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Desigol1979
    I think the proposals to make it 16 is going too far. Idealy it should be 18, like most American States.

    Scumbags like them younger!
    What about the 18-year-old in the US who had sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, completely consensual, and no suggestion of coercion at all. He was sentenced to a 10-year minimum mandatory sentence, publicly registered as a sex offender for life, and banned from living within one mile of a school, playground and a long list of other institutions that children use, covering almost half the area of his state.

    Actually I agree with 18, but it should be made a valid defence (onus of proof on the accused) that there was no coercion or inequality of power between the two parties, and if this is the case, then no offence has been committed. So if teacher has sex with 17-year-old pupil, teacher goes to jail, but if it's a classmate they don't.

    Equally if 17-year-old has sex with 14-year-old girlfriend, then age difference constitutes an inequality of power.

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    Re: What should the Age of Consent be?

    Quote Originally Posted by GJG
    Quote Originally Posted by Desigol1979
    I think the proposals to make it 16 is going too far. Idealy it should be 18, like most American States.

    Scumbags like them younger!
    What about the 18-year-old in the US who had sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, completely consensual, and no suggestion of coercion at all. He was sentenced to a 10-year minimum mandatory sentence, publicly registered as a sex offender for life, and banned from living within one mile of a school, playground and a long list of other institutions that children use, covering almost half the area of his state.

    Actually I agree with 18, but it should be made a valid defence (onus of proof on the accused) that there was no coercion or inequality of power between the two parties, and if this is the case, then no offence has been committed. So if teacher has sex with 17-year-old pupil, teacher goes to jail, but if it's a classmate they don't.

    Equally if 17-year-old has sex with 14-year-old girlfriend, then age difference constitutes an inequality of power.
    Common sense should apply, something America's (or the UK's) justice system lacks.
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    Re: What should the Age of Consent be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Desigol1979
    I think the proposals to make it 16 is going too far. Idealy it should be 18, like most American States.[/list]
    I would favour 18 also. Playing around with the creation of life should be something for adults only.

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    I wouldn't disagree with 18, but from a practical perspective 17 makes more sense. That is the age when most kids leave school (and the protection of parents etc.) and go to college.

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    They're doing it at 16, so there's no point in having the legal age of consent at 18 which neither reflects reality nor is implementable but between 16 and 18 there should be protection against anyone with a duty of care (teacher, social worker, doctor ,etc.) having sex with those who should be under their protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad
    They're doing it at 16, so there's no point in having the legal age of consent at 18 which neither reflects reality nor is implementable but between 16 and 18 there should be protection against anyone with a duty of care (teacher, social worker, doctor ,etc.) having sex with those who should be under their protection.
    The legal age of consent does have an effect upon behaviour. It won't influence everyone, but it would discourage others.

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    Re: What should the Age of Consent be?

    Quote Originally Posted by Desigol1979
    Quote Originally Posted by GJG
    Quote Originally Posted by Desigol1979
    I think the proposals to make it 16 is going too far. Idealy it should be 18, like most American States.

    Scumbags like them younger!
    What about the 18-year-old in the US who had sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, completely consensual, and no suggestion of coercion at all. He was sentenced to a 10-year minimum mandatory sentence, publicly registered as a sex offender for life, and banned from living within one mile of a school, playground and a long list of other institutions that children use, covering almost half the area of his state.

    Actually I agree with 18, but it should be made a valid defence (onus of proof on the accused) that there was no coercion or inequality of power between the two parties, and if this is the case, then no offence has been committed. So if teacher has sex with 17-year-old pupil, teacher goes to jail, but if it's a classmate they don't.

    Equally if 17-year-old has sex with 14-year-old girlfriend, then age difference constitutes an inequality of power.
    Common sense should apply, something America's (or the UK's) justice system lacks.
    I'm sorry, but what do you mean by this? There was a widespread review of the legislation relating to Sexual Offences in the UK only recently, in what areas do you feel it is lacking in common sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad
    They're doing it at 16, so there's no point in having the legal age of consent at 18 which neither reflects reality nor is implementable
    They're also doing it at 14 and 15.

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