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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    Can anyone explain the revelance of this little rant to this thread?
    You asked the question. I answered it.

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    You asked the question. I answered it.
    Not really. My question was clearly directed at the subject of discussion in this thread. No innocent person has been killed, thank god, and nobody has 'no problem' with the issues raised by this alleged plot. So other than trying to strawman and make sure you could get the word "islamofascist' into a sentence, your post is of no relevance.

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    Paxtime, for your eyes only:
    'Those in custody are originally from Morocco and Yemen, but it is understood they all have refugee status and are legally in the country.'

    From RTE's website. You are throwing comments around, calling people racist pigs when they're only quoting facts. Makes you a bit of a moron now, doesn't it just???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thac0man View Post
    So, our homely little back water may have lost its virginity. Interesting.

    Talk though of immigration being linked to this issue is premature. We should await confirmation of who is involved in this alledged plot. What odds would Paddy Power give on a couple of native converts being involved? My money is on one or two at least.

    If there is anything to this plot, then congratulations to the Garda for nipping it in the bud.
    Very possible no doubt that rot spreads.

    I agree that immigration has nothing to do with this. Cartoonists 50 years ago, where under threat for drawing Mohammed, what they weren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    Not really. My question was clearly directed at the subject of discussion in this thread. No innocent person has been killed, thank god, and nobody has 'no problem' with the issues raised by this alleged plot. So other than trying to strawman and make sure you could get the word "islamofascist' into a sentence, your post is of no relevance.
    Like the Israelis, it's a pre-emptive strike before the terror fans appear here with their usual Islamobile.

    On the subject of the thread, fair play to the Gardai and the foreign agencies. At least they are alert to the threat of Islamic terrorism and are not complacent about the dangers all of us face from these lunatics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    No innocent person has been killed, thank god,

    On the other hand your post is highly relevant in that to the alleged conspirators their target would be anything but innocent, and of course they would have been thanking their God for allowing that murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Jack View Post

    There are certain posters on here - and no, I am not going to name them - who are cheerleaders for Islamofascists and their evil deeds.
    No fan of lefties myself but I have never seen anyone being a cheerleader for Islamic terrorism. What I have seen is posters trying to equate Islamic terrorism with the actions of Western armies. I have also seen, and will see again no doubt, posters refusing to see the danger that comes from unchecked Muslim immigration. Which ones will become normal citizens who just happen to have Islam as their religion and which ones are Taliban supporting cavemen.

    One further point. These individuals have obviously done something suspicious to come to the attention of the guards. They wouldn't be arresting them unless they had evidence of some. Whether that is "beyond all reasonable doubt" is for a jury to decide but it does beg the question as to what screening process is in place to weed out Islamic extremists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    What we need is a mechanism for reversing refugee status for those who participate in terrorism.

    Send them back to Yemen & Morocco.
    For all we know at this point those arrested may be Paddies out for the hit-money. Or, for that matter, desperate now that Martin Cullen's gone and there's no Waterford representation in Cabinet to bring home any sweeties!

    edit: Oh, I see from the RTE yoke that they are reported as being from Yemen and Morocco. Apologies.

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    Alleged is the key word here, sadly missed by all the Islamophobes. But even if there were some truth to it, were they going to carry out the alleged assassination in Ireland or abroad?

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