7 arrested in Waterford in "alleged" Al-Qaeda murder plot

[sondagefaux]

You really are beginning to look slightly silly at this stage with the rhetorical questions and the sarcasm.

What happened to your argument that the US wealth of evidence couldn't be trusted? Was it because you then belatedly realised that perhaps this was an international effort to bring these muslim immigrant socio-paths to justice and so your argument, along with most of the drivel you've come out with here, is straw in the wind?

What argument? What US wealth of evidence? Post some of this evidence.

If I assume guilt based on the evidence amassed over an extensive period of time by several different agencies on several continents...well then call me assumptive.

What evidence? Post some of this evidence.

But that pales in comparison for what we would all call cheer-leaders and apologists for these absolute headbangers we've allowed in to our midst.

I'm not an apologist for anybody. I'm merely concerned that we don't violate people's fundamental rights and ditch the rule of law in a headlong rush led by prejudice.

I'll leave you to mull over the words of Benjamin Franklin (maybe you think he was a cheerleader and apologist for headbangers).

'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.'

[cyberianpan]

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cYp

[Grumpy Jack]

What argument? What US wealth of evidence? Post some of this evidence.



What evidence? Post some of this evidence.



I'm not an apologist for anybody. I'm merely concerned that we don't violate people's fundamental rights and ditch the rule of law in a headlong rush led by prejudice.

I'll leave you to mull over the words of Benjamin Franklin (maybe you think he was a cheerleader and apologist for headbangers).

'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.'

No rights have been violated. What the hell are you talking about?

Concern about Islamic extremism in Ireland is now violating the fundamental rights of any Muslim arrested in Ireland in connection with such activity?

And you're the one urging people to post evidence before any charges are laid or case comes to court - which would violate the right to a fair trial.

Are you Future Taioseach's twin? Your idiotic posts certainly share the FT DNA?

[jtbooker]

'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.'

Dammit...that's the last time I get taken in by yet another troll on this site!



For a second there I thought you were just confused...but your coming out with purple prose quotes from the 18th century to act as some sort of modern day aphorism to protect us from the wrongs of arresting socio-paths who threaten our very way of life is...well...pitiful

[Grumpy Jack]

Cyp

Wonder how long they'll last on P.ie?

You better sleep with the lights on tonight....

[sondagefaux]

What cave are you living in? You really think no other agency worth it's salt on this planet isn't collecting information and intelligence the same way? Somebody else said it here but - grow up.

Grow up? You mean accept illegal kidnapping, torture and detention as acceptable?

Benjamin Franklin again.

'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.'

However again you choose to digress - this thread isn't about the wrongs or rights of how US agencies collect their information. If you want to argue that set up another thread.

It's obviously relevant if the people arrested in Ireland have been arrested partly because of information supplied by US agencies.

[sondagefaux]

Dammit...that's the last time I get taken in by yet another troll on this site!



For a second there I thought you were just confused...but your coming out with purple prose quotes from the 18th century to act as some sort of modern day aphorism to protect us from the wrongs of arresting socio-paths who threaten our very way of life is...well...pitiful

Any chance you'll post the evidence that the people arrested are sociopaths who threaten our very way of life?

Or would you prefer to just sentence them now?

[Cato]

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cYp

I cannot see the one where the alleged prophet (MHBIH) was depicted with the body of a dog...

[jtbooker]

OK I'm done here - ignore the troll people...

[sondagefaux]

No rights have been violated. What the hell are you talking about?

The right to presumption of innocence. Ring a bell?

And you're the one urging people to post evidence before any charges are laid or case comes to court - which would violate the right to a fair trial.

I'm asking people who claim that those arrested are sociopaths or terrorists to provide evidence for their claims.

If this evidence is available then post it. Either put up or shut up.