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    I wonder where the 'Pro-Life' people stand on the judge's remarks?
    I watched with glee, while your kings and queens, fought for ten decades for the gods they made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    I wonder where the 'Pro-Life' people stand on the judge's remarks?
    It's not an issue in Ireland. The Catholic Church is completely opposed to the death penalty and Catholics make up the vast majority of the Pro-life movement here.

    In the US you get people who are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty. I don't think it's a position easily defended. Either life is sacred or it's not.

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    Just listening to the radio about this murder: Stalker used cattle gun in execution and it's the surest thing that this killer will be released from prison sometime in the future unless his life sentence means just that!
    I watched with glee, while your kings and queens, fought for ten decades for the gods they made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew49 View Post
    I wonder where the 'Pro-Life' people stand on the judge's remarks?
    They're probably too busy protesting outside cemeteries to take any notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TradCat View Post
    In the US you get people who are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty. I don't think it's a position easily defended. Either life is sacred or it's not.
    +1.

    Saw the headline on my way to work and felt really troubled. The Indo is lurching almost comically to the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TradCat View Post
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    In the US you get people who are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty. I don't think it's a position easily defended. Either life is sacred or it's not.
    In Ireland you get people against the death penalty but yet pro-abortion and euthenasia as ably demonstrated by Ivana Bacik in the Seanad last week. Is that position any easier to defend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    In Ireland you get people against the death penalty but yet pro-abortion and euthenasia as ably demonstrated by Ivana Bacik in the Seanad last week. Is that position any easier to defend?
    X Case. Allowing the pregnancy (caused by rape) to go ahead would have been a death penalty for the raped child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TradCat View Post
    It's not an issue in Ireland. The Catholic Church is completely opposed to the death penalty and Catholics make up the vast majority of the Pro-life movement here.

    In the US you get people who are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty. I don't think it's a position easily defended. Either life is sacred or it's not.
    Not all Roman Catholics are opposed to the death penalty and for most of its history the RCC has had no problemn with it.

    Im undecided about abortion before the formation of the brain in the foetus however I think most people can see plainly that there is a difference between the community taking the life of one of its members who has gravely violated whether through rape or murder the "sacredness of life" as you put it and an innocent child inside its mother's womb being surgically destoried.

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    The thread is regarding a retired Judge's opinion that the Death Penalty be restored. It is not about anything other than the Judicial Death Penalty.

    Having established that it would be good if for just bloody once we could talk about the subject. The restoring of the Death Penalty would be appalling, luckily as things stand at this time, it is impossible, thank God or the E.U. or the people of Ireland.

    Has anyone noted that people who steal things, like large sums of money etc., (apart from the political figures, bankers etc., who are apparently exempt) get much tougher sentances than those who take a human life? This shows more clearly than anything that society puts more value on material things than it does on human life.

    The Death penalty is a step back in evolution, in my humble opinion. Only savages and extremely stupid people would advocate it.

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    When I think of some of the more debased crimes for which I don't think the offenders can ever be rehabilitated, I'm tempted to agree with the Judge, a culling of the bad from the herd. But this of course would be a major step backwards for our society.

    What we really need is proper jail time. If your given life you should literally spend the rest of your days behind bars and die in prison. Actual time served these days is an absolute joke!
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