Gallup: Ireland has highest crime rate in the EU

[St Disibod]

RTÉ report
The EU International Crime Survey today reported that Ireland has the highest level of robbery, assault, and sexual attack in the European Union.

The cover sheet figures for Ireland should raise eyebrows:
Overall 22% of Irish people were victims of crime in the previous year;
3.8% were victims of sex assault,
2.5% were victims of assault,
2.5% were victims of robbery.
All of these are the highest recorded for each catagory among EU countries.

According to Robert Manchin at the International Crime Survey only 40% of these victims went to the police (one of the lowest figures in Europe), hence why it doesn't appear in Irish statistics. Our own Central Statistics Office is due to publish a report on crime in April, which the government is suggesting will give us the more accurate picture. For their part the Department of Justice is severely critical of the methodology used in the EU funded report.

[Jim236]

I think the title of this thread should be changed as it implies this was an official EU survey, which it wasn't, and thus their claims aren't based on official EU statistics. I know I would dispute them, I was very surprised when I saw we were ranked the country with the highest crime rate in the EU, I think there has to be fault in the methodology used. The CSO are to conduct their own survey anyway, so we'll know by May whether these claims are true or not, I really doubt they are though.

[Catalpa]

I can well believe it!

TBH I never ever believed the official line about this State having a low level of crime compared to other European states.

Certainly gives FG something to chew on anyway!

Watch out Bertie! :twisted:

[Jacobin]

RTÉ report
The EU International Crime Survey today reported that Ireland has the highest level of robbery, assault, and sexual attack in the European Union.

The cover sheet figures for Ireland should raise eyebrows:
Overall 22% of Irish people were victims of crime in the previous year;
3.8% were victims of sex assault,
2.5% were victims of assault,
2.5% were victims of robbery.
All of these are the highest recorded for each catagory among EU countries.

According to Robert Manchin at the International Crime Survey only 40% of these victims went to the police (one of the lowest figures in Europe), hence why it doesn't appear in Irish statistics. Our own Central Statistics Office is due to publish a report on crime in April, which the government is suggesting will give us the more accurate picture. For their part the Department of Justice is severely critical of the methodology used in the EU funded report.

No surprise! What else does a neo-liberal society create?

[Catalpa]

I think the title of this thread should be changed as it implies this was an official EU survey, which it wasn't, and thus their claims aren't based on official EU statistics. I know I would dispute them, I was very surprised when I saw we were ranked the country with the highest crime rate in the EU, I think there has to be fault in the methodology used. The CSO are to conduct their own survey anyway, so we'll know by May whether these claims are true or not, I really doubt they are though.

The CSO are to conduct their own survey anyway, so we'll know by May whether these claims are true or not

I'd take what they say with a grain of salt mate!

[terry666]

RTÉ report
The EU International Crime Survey today reported that Ireland has the highest level of robbery, assault, and sexual attack in the European Union.

The cover sheet figures for Ireland should raise eyebrows:
Overall 22% of Irish people were victims of crime in the previous year;
3.8% were victims of sex assault,
2.5% were victims of assault,
2.5% were victims of robbery.
All of these are the highest recorded for each catagory among EU countries.

According to Robert Manchin at the International Crime Survey only 40% of these victims went to the police (one of the lowest figures in Europe), hence why it doesn't appear in Irish statistics. Our own Central Statistics Office is due to publish a report on crime in April, which the government is suggesting will give us the more accurate picture. For their part the Department of Justice is severely critical of the methodology used in the EU funded report.

This is not an accurate stat, its based on a survey of around 2,000 people,the offical stats, murders rate etc dont support it.

[Coles]

RTÉ report
The EU International Crime Survey today reported that Ireland has the highest level of robbery, assault, and sexual attack in the European Union.

The cover sheet figures for Ireland should raise eyebrows:
Overall 22% of Irish people were victims of crime in the previous year;
3.8% were victims of sex assault,
2.5% were victims of assault,
2.5% were victims of robbery.
All of these are the highest recorded for each catagory among EU countries.

According to Robert Manchin at the International Crime Survey only 40% of these victims went to the police (one of the lowest figures in Europe), hence why it doesn't appear in Irish statistics. Our own Central Statistics Office is due to publish a report on crime in April, which the government is suggesting will give us the more accurate picture. For their part the Department of Justice is severely critical of the methodology used in the EU funded report.

This is not an accurate stat, its based on a survey of around 2,000 people,the offical stats, murders rate etc dont support it.

Those figures can't possibly be right.
If you take that the majority of sex assaults are against females, and robbery probably affects males and females more or less equally, then that would suggest that there were three times the number of sex assaults against women as robberies against women. That's not true.

[Jacobin]

But on the PDs website its says:

We are less likely to be a victim of crime than 10 years ago

Who is lying here? The PDs or the EU?

[KingKane]

RTÉ report
The EU International Crime Survey today reported that Ireland has the highest level of robbery, assault, and sexual attack in the European Union.

The cover sheet figures for Ireland should raise eyebrows:
Overall 22% of Irish people were victims of crime in the previous year;
3.8% were victims of sex assault,
2.5% were victims of assault,
2.5% were victims of robbery.
All of these are the highest recorded for each catagory among EU countries.

According to Robert Manchin at the International Crime Survey only 40% of these victims went to the police (one of the lowest figures in Europe), hence why it doesn't appear in Irish statistics. Our own Central Statistics Office is due to publish a report on crime in April, which the government is suggesting will give us the more accurate picture. For their part the Department of Justice is severely critical of the methodology used in the EU funded report.

This is not an accurate stat, its based on a survey of around 2,000 people,the offical stats, murders rate etc dont support it.

Those figures can't possibly be right.
If you take that the majority of sex assaults are against females, and robbery probably affects males and females more or less equally, then that would suggest that there were three times the number of sex assaults against women as robberies against women. That's not true.

Coles, you're going to have to spell this out for me, because I do not follow what you're saying from the numbers in the paragraph above.

[hiker]

Those figures can't possibly be right.
If you take that the majority of sex assaults are against females, and robbery probably affects males and females more or less equally, then that would suggest that there were three times the number of sex assaults against women as robberies against women. That's not true.

It does not matter now.

Its a headline newspaper story and to the vast majority of punters its therefore true.

We cannot win against this kind of mass media onslaught.

Perception is reality in politics.