Can teachers have sex with students at the age of 17

[Barrister]

[i][quote]What I want to say is if the government brings down the age for younger people to have sex at the age to 16 . And there Is this gay teacher at school . And he has a crush on me I’m 100% . And some of the things he comes out with in the class . I’m 16 years old and I’m going to be 17 soon . But do you think he could come on to me . Even if I’m 17 years old . Or do you have to me 18 to have sex with a student . And what way do u think he mite come on to me ??? .

[rockofcashel]

Currently the age of consent for homosexuals in Ireland is 17

https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A ... pol&P=3846

Therefore, if you are 17 when you begin a sexual relationship, you are breaking no law.

There is currently a recommendation being considered by Government, to change the age of consent with "a person in authority" (which would include teachers), to 18 years of age. However, that is not in law, and the 17 year age of consent applies.

As for "how he may come onto you", this is a political website, and not the proper forum for considering such matters.

However, if you currently feel his behaviour in class is inappropriate, then you should report this to your parents, and the school principal.

[FutureTaoiseach]

I understand the govt is planning changes which, while reducing the age of consent to 16, will continue to criminalise sex between adults and those under 18 if the adult is responsible for them in positions of responsibility, e.g. teachers, swimming-coaches etc. So even if you're 17 it will be illegal once this legislation is passed and the maximum punishment for the teacher would be life-imprisonment. 18 is another matter entirely.

[Realism]

I understand the govt is planning changes which, while reducing the age of consent to 16, will continue to criminalise sex between adults and those under 18 if the adult is responsible for them in positions of responsibility, e.g. teachers, swimming-coaches etc. So even if you're 17 it will be illegal once this legislation is passed and the maximum punishment for the teacher would be life-imprisonment. 18 is another matter entirely.

That's a ridiculous policy. And wholly disproportionate!! Life imprisonment? Are you having us on? The teacher would be doing nothing wrong sexually. Just professionally/conflict of interest. So disciplinary hearings would be in order perhaps but nothing legal. I would have a liberal attitude to these things and would be inclined to want the teacher redeployed in this situation. Alternatively the pupil would have to have a different teacher for the subjects taught by the particular teacher. Yet this is far from a rigid response. It depends on the person. Some people would have no problem pursuing their duties in the classroom, others would be different. Similarly for the student. But no way do I support draconian and pointless jail sentences etc.

[FutureTaoiseach]

I understand the govt is planning changes which, while reducing the age of consent to 16, will continue to criminalise sex between adults and those under 18 if the adult is responsible for them in positions of responsibility, e.g. teachers, swimming-coaches etc. So even if you're 17 it will be illegal once this legislation is passed and the maximum punishment for the teacher would be life-imprisonment. 18 is another matter entirely.

That's a ridiculous policy. And wholly disproportionate!! Life imprisonment? Are you having us on? The teacher would be doing nothing wrong sexually. Just professionally/conflict of interest. So disciplinary hearings would be in order perhaps but nothing legal. I would have a liberal attitude to these things and would be inclined to want the teacher redeployed in this situation. Alternatively the pupil would have to have a different teacher for the subjects taught by the particular teacher. Yet this is far from a rigid response. It depends on the person. Some people would have no problem pursuing their duties in the classroom, others would be different. Similarly for the student. But no way do I support draconian and pointless jail sentences etc.

I agree it seems draconian to send someone to life-imprisonment if there is a consensual relationship with a 17 year old but I suppose the framers of the proposals have in mind protecting children from predators who would abuse their positions of authority to pressure someone under them into sex. There is also the question of a party to such a relationship getting unduly favourable treatment e.g. exam-marks and that is obviously wrong. So there has to be some kind of punishment.

[badinage]

I agree it seems draconian to send someone to life-imprisonment if...

that's only the maximum sentence - its unlikely anyone would ever get a life sentence, let alone serve life, for such a crime.

Rape also carries life as a maximum sentence.

[angelcountry]

[i]

What I want to say is if the government brings down the age for younger people to have sex at the age to 16 . And there Is this gay teacher at school . And he has a crush on me I’m 100% . And some of the things he comes out with in the class . I’m 16 years old and I’m going to be 17 soon . But do you think he could come on to me . Even if I’m 17 years old . Or do you have to me 18 to have sex with a student . And what way do u think he mite come on to me ??? .

The teacher is mearnt to teach the student not to engage in sexual
Relationship with the student on that age to be honest,but i think there
Should be a legislation against such a teacher in actual world. :wink:

[Dunny]

[i]

What I want to say is if the government brings down the age for younger people to have sex at the age to 16 . And there Is this gay teacher at school . And he has a crush on me I’m 100% . And some of the things he comes out with in the class . I’m 16 years old and I’m going to be 17 soon . But do you think he could come on to me . Even if I’m 17 years old . Or do you have to me 18 to have sex with a student . And what way do u think he mite come on to me ??? .

The teacher should be sacked immediately and the Teaching Council should bar him from Teaching in this state. It's totally unethical, unprofessional and immoral

[angelcountry]

[i]

What I want to say is if the government brings down the age for younger people to have sex at the age to 16 . And there Is this gay teacher at school . And he has a crush on me I’m 100% . And some of the things he comes out with in the class . I’m 16 years old and I’m going to be 17 soon . But do you think he could come on to me . Even if I’m 17 years old . Or do you have to me 18 to have sex with a student . And what way do u think he mite come on to me ??? .

The teacher should be sacked immediately and the Teaching Council shoudl bar him from Teaching in this state. UIts totally unethical, unprofessional and immoral

Now you're talking :!:

[tumeltyni]

[i]

What I want to say is if the government brings down the age for younger people to have sex at the age to 16 . And there Is this gay teacher at school . And he has a crush on me I’m 100% . And some of the things he comes out with in the class . I’m 16 years old and I’m going to be 17 soon . But do you think he could come on to me . Even if I’m 17 years old . Or do you have to me 18 to have sex with a student . And what way do u think he mite come on to me ??? .

The teacher should be sacked immediately and the Teaching Council should bar him from Teaching in this state. It's totally unethical, unprofessional and immoral

Em, because a student thinks he might have a crush on him? If the teacher actually tried to do anything of course that should happen, but it's just a tad ott to do that based on an unsubstantiated worry. Just because the teacher is gay doesn't automatically mean that the teacher will hit on the student