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    Quote Originally Posted by patronsaint View Post
    Was told this morning that that guy famously berated the Wolfe Tones on the Late Late Show one night. Would love to see a clip if available.
    Is this the one.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPiRvVD4WB8]YouTube - The Wolfe Tones, Late Late Show Debate, RTE - Part 1[/ame]
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    While we're on the subject of the Sticks, in case anyone is interested, here is a copy of the famous letter from the WP leadership to the CP of the SU, that was at the centre of the De Rossa libel case.

    http://psi.ece.jhu.edu/~kaplan/IRUSS...-com/num08.pdf

    Hilarious stuff.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nem View Post
    I believe Brian got some access to certain archives, but it was *very* difficult. I'm sure that if there are some interviews he will indicate what he was able to consult. But I believe is was a painstaking process. As they Sunday Times article shows the authors were able to weave a very intricate story that took years to compile. Needless to say that for people with an interest in leftist Ireland this book will be essential reading!
    The authors received a great deal of cooperation, including access to internal Party documents. This is far more cooperation than most people writing about the history of any political organisation receives. The authors were also facilitated with interviews.

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    Could someone enlighten me again about that De Rossa letter and why there was a libel case?

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    Saw the book says De Rossa didn't sign letter he typed it!

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    Looking forward to reading this book. Anyone know anything about the author?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusflower View Post
    Looking forward to reading this book. Anyone know anything about the author?
    Authors. One is temporary lecturer at QUB the other a journalist for the Examiner.
    "The thing that always annoyed me about traditional Irish historiography was the paradox of its Anglocentrism. People are now prepared, I think, to confront the possibility that many Irish problems are, in a sense, indigenous to the Irish situation." Roy Foster (1989).

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    As a non-Republican (surprisingly) I think PIRA evolved into Sinn Fein and I believe eventually Sinn Fein came to the same conclusion OIRA did around 1960 that an armed campaign in Ulster would result in sectarian violence which only ended when Sinn Fein promoted purely political action in the 1990's.

    I'm sure the INLA evolved into the IRSP, but do OIRA still exist in any form and do they have a political identity that can be seen to be non-sectarian today ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mejustme View Post
    As a non-Republican (surprisingly) I think PIRA evolved into Sinn Fein and I believe eventually Sinn Fein came to the same conclusion OIRA did around 1960 that an armed campaign in Ulster would result in sectarian violence which only ended when Sinn Fein promoted purely political action in the 1990's.

    I'm sure the INLA evolved into the IRSP, but do OIRA still exist in any form and do they have a political identity that can be seen to be non-sectarian today ?
    The Officials were murdering members of the IRSP and Sinn Féin while all the time preaching their so-called anti-sectarian message. It seems it was not sectarian to murder other republicans and also set up other republicans to be murdered by loyalists in their skewed version of the world. I lost a number of friends due to their campaign of murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiernanator View Post
    The Officials were murdering members of the IRSP and Sinn Féin while all the time preaching their so-called anti-sectarian message. It seems it was not sectarian to murder other republicans and also set up other republicans to be murdered by loyalists in their skewed version of the world. I lost a number of friends due to their campaign of murder.
    I've asked this before on here, and nobody replied. I'm genuinely curious about the murder of Seamus Costello, the founder of the IRSP and the INLA. He was from Bray, and politically active there. He was shot by the OIRA. Liz McManus was active in SFTWP in Bray around this time. Has she ever spoken about the shooting of Costello, and whether she ever heard anything about it.

    I want to make it clear, I am not in any way suggesting that McManus had any part whatsoever in the death of Costello. Absolutely none. But she was a member of an organisation inextricably linked to a terrorist grouping that killed a prominent local politician. I don't think anyone would object to querying the knowledge or otherwise of PSF politicians about certain PIRA activities. Why should different rules have applied to SFTWP/OIRA?

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