"The Lost Revolution: A History of the OIRA and Workers Party"

[SevenStars]

I'm glad you posted this merle because it demonstrates that your claims to knowledge about this issue are dubious. See this link posted by Seven Stars on a thread he began seeking information on the ORM. It's from the Irish News in 1997, and refers to that flurry.

Irish News: Republican dispute set to escalate

The article is wrong to claim that there were branches expelled. The Newry branch was dissolved because it had allowed people with no place in an anti-sectarian and socialist organisation to join.

Yes but the article would suggest either that PeteVonPete is a liar or at least uninformed because he stated that NO OIRA volunteers went over to the ORM or that the article itself is misinformed or lying...Would people claiming to be OIRA vols when they are not be allowed to get away with such behaviour for long by B group?

Doubt it somehow...More here than meets the eye.

[Podolski1.5]

except it was the WP/OIRA who were involved as the ORM werent formed until a year later.

Actually the ORM were formed in 1996, not 1998.

[PetevonPete]

Numerous OIRA members went over to ORM - but an "active" majority outside Newry stayed WP/Group B - although the ORM could be equal to the WP in Belfast and other areas of the North by now

[citizen pat]

Okay....But the fact is that many working class and progressive protestants or people from protestant backgrounds were sympathic or supportive of the Provos...Why do you think that was if they were as sectarian as you say?

7*s
Apologies for not contributing lately...but still following the discussion. That is an interesting take on Enniskillen...my point is that the Republican war had a strong element of sectarianism .

I wonder if progressive Protestants or Catholics would vote left and not for the various orange and green combinations .
I lived and worked long enough in N Ireland to say that the vast majority of Protestants I met and got to know did not support or would ever support Republicans or Republicanism (as they viewed and experienced it ) - a few admired the WP's politics but Im not sure if they ever voted WP-I doubt if they did . I met a few Unionst Cathliocs too - to wonder about what really motivated them politically .
The last phase of the 'troubles' is past and we will live with the legacy for generations .The divides are as real as ever . Catholics / Protestants / Republican/ Nationalist/ Unionist/Loyalists still find it difficult to move away from the comfort of the tribe .The overall voting patterns attest to the lack of progress .

[Josip Broz]

Only just got my copy. Don't be spoiling it for me by telling the end, Oscartango.

They all come to a sticky ending.....

[tenderloins1]

Posted this the other day. A 1986 letter from The Workers Party to the CPSU (Communist Party of The Soviet Union) looking for funding.
It got a mention in the book.

[Molly Maguire]

The overall voting patterns attest to the lack of progress .

The fact that large numbers of unionist voters moved across to the Alliance Party from the DUP in East Belfast shows people can move outwith the tribes.

[British Citizen]

The fact that large numbers of unionist voters moved across to the Alliance Party from the DUP in East Belfast shows people can move outwith the tribes.

Well Unionists anyway......

[brasco]

are we still arguing over the sticks and super sticks!!!!

The workers party is still protected and funded by a criminal gang of drug dealers, bank robbers and extortionists known as the official IRA....

only recently two of their members publicly assaulted an innocent bystander in Andersontown, fleeing when approached by a sizable crowd in defense of this lady!

Anyone who continues to believe that this criminal enterprise because this is what the Workers party in belfast is and has been for years is living in cloud cuckoo land...

The ORM is just the latest split of those who want a bigger piece of the criminal action....

the workers party/official ira should stick(sorry for the pun) to passing and selling drugs and anything thing else you desire from their dingy social clubs in Twinbrook, Turf Lodge and the lower Falls....social clubs which are the refuge of every brand of criminal who wish...for a fee...to get the protection of the sticks....

but then I`m lying as the sad delusional sticky internet warriors would say!

[Garibaldy]

are we still arguing over the sticks and super sticks!!!!

The workers party is still protected and funded by a criminal gang of drug dealers, bank robbers and extortionists known as the official IRA....

only recently two of their members publicly assaulted an innocent bystander in Andersontown, fleeing when approached by a sizable crowd in defense of this lady!

Anyone who continues to believe that this criminal enterprise because this is what the Workers party in belfast is and has been for years is living in cloud cuckoo land...

The ORM is just the latest split of those who want a bigger piece of the criminal action....

the workers party/official ira should stick(sorry for the pun) to passing and selling drugs and anything thing else you desire from their dingy social clubs in Twinbrook, Turf Lodge and the lower Falls....social clubs which are the refuge of every brand of criminal who wish...for a fee...to get the protection of the sticks....

but then I`m lying as the sad delusional sticky internet warriors would say!

Still can't let go eh? Still with the same old rubbish. Except adding in mythical stories of attacking women now.

You used to say how wonderful the so-called ORM was, and how it was untainted by any of your usual accusations. I see you have changed your tune completely now. Not for the first time either, of course, given your previous support of punishment shootings by dissidents over on Slugger, and your previous support on here for Cameron and the Tories.

We all know who the sad delusional person around here is. It's the one who continues to hurl baseless accusations in pursuit of some bizarre right-wing borderline mental vendetta against the WP.