Catholic Church Abuse.

[Lloyd-Apjohn]

FF and FG have absolutely no concern for the public they claim to represent. They care about being in power. The anathema of christianity that is abuse against children would have been dealt with long ago if either party thought they'd gain a single vote. It's time people from those parties admitted it instead of singing their own praises over what they have allegedly done to stop the defilement of children. They have done so little and what little has been achieved took decades for a shoddy report to even be published.

I don't know it's an FF or FG thing only - there are plenty of Labour or SFers who did nothing to help - given that most of these victims were from poor backgrounds it's unlikely they voted FG. It was a mentality that infected every house in the country no matter what their politics. There should be lots of uncomfortable conversations iwth parents and grandparents being asked what they knew - when I speak to my parents later I'm going to ask them and I don't care if they don't like it.

[Kev408]

I don't know it's an FF or FG thing only - there are plenty of Labour or SFers who did nothing to help - given that most of these victims were from poor backgrounds it's unlikely they voted FG. It was a mentality that infected every house in the country no matter what their politics. There should be lots of uncomfortable conversations iwth parents and grandparents being asked what they knew - when I speak to my parents later I'm going to ask them and I don't care if they don't like it.

I was referring to those two parties inasmuch as they were mostly in power throughout the horrors committed by the church and it's minions.

[The OD]

Watching Kevin Mullen, head of the Christian Brothers, on RTE and he typifies the type of sick mentality in this country - he was in no way sorry for anything bar the damage done to the reputation of his precious organisation. His body language was that of someone who wasnt interested in anyting other than damage limitation.

[Andrew49]

I think it's important to point out that the Child Abuse Commission Report covers the psychological abuse of children, the physical abuse of children and the sexual abuse of children.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vzIGpcCGGc]YouTube - Laffoy Valedictory Report[/ame]

[Lloyd-Apjohn]

I was referring to those two parties inasmuch as they were mostly in power throughout the horrors committed by the church and it's minions.

But there doesn't seem to be the same abuse coming out in other countries that were just as repressed as Ireland was by the Catholic church and which had just as much corruption in politics as Ireland has so why did the level of abuse reach such a scale in Ireland?

I'd be interested to know if any Minister was ever told about these abuses rather than some good Catholic official killing the report before it ever reached the Minister - if it can be proven that a Minister actually knew then that is a whole new level and that Minister needs to be shamed - even if they are dead. Being dead shouldn't be any excuse to protect anyone.

[SFInbhear]

Another reason for Fianna Fail to hang their heads in shame.
Eamonn de Valera and his 1937 constitution's legacy.

[Chrisco]

I was referring to those two parties inasmuch as they were mostly in power throughout the horrors committed by the church and it's minions.

Fianna Fail were in power for 82% of the time in question.

[Geekzilla]

also pope rumoured to be secret catholic. Next : are trees made of wood? we inquire

Followed by next weeks' special investigation: do bears evacuate their bowels in forested areas?

[dmc444]

Fianna Fail were in power for 82% of the time in question.

Sorry but i dont get why you feel the need to turn this horriffic situation into a party political broadcast and that is the second time in this thread you have made that point.

The Irish state failed that comprises FF,FG,LAB etc and they should have went after these people but i dont see how your typical anti-FFism helps any of the victims of this abuse.

I have no intention at all of pointing fingers at any political party because the whole state failed to act and i dont see how turning this into a typical political party p*ssing contest helps anybody.

[HughinBandon]

I was particularly interested in the section on Daingean:

from the Executive Summary:

It is a horrific, shameful and criminal period of recent Irish history. Both Church and State are implicated......Hopefully, reaction to the Report will move beyond mere emotional outrage towards prosecutions and, inadequate though it may be at this stage, more appropriate financial compensation for the victims.

So when can we expect the prosecutions and financial compensation???