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    StarryPlough01 StarryPlough01 is offline
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    Don't you mean anti-English? Why didn't Thatcher stick with the Peruvian Peace proposal? It was a good proposal and they should have gone down that road first.

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    Not answering for him, but imo it was a price worth paying to secure that the Falklands remain British according to the expressed wish of the population there. Itīd be good if you would recall who started the invasion there and itīs plain clear that this goes on the account of the Argentines. They were the aggressor and they got the "drumming" and pushed out from these Islands, rightly so.

    Itīs always a strange thing witnessing Irish contributors supporting fascist regimes or any other of that ilk as long as it serves their anti-Britishness. I find that a "blind position for debate", very and heavily one-sided.
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    All of Britain participated in the Falklands including the Falkland Islanders themselves and I'm sure plenty of Irish people serving in the British forces, not just the English.

    The Argentinian military junta was a fascist dictatorship which murdered 10,000 political dissidents in 7 years, some by throwing them into the South Atlantic from military planes. Imagine waking up one morning to find yourself living under such a regime?
    The real winners from the Falklands were the Argentines who have enjoyed democracy ever since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtharper View Post
    I have no idea why Captain Bonzo didn't drown, why not write and ask him? As for this so-called "controversy", it's controversial only to people who can't deal with the facts. I suggest you do some reading from the the British government and Naval perspectives, in particular "One Hundred Days, Memoirs of a Task Force Commander by Adml. Sir Sandy Woodward, which covers the sinking in detail.
    He is absolutely clear and certain that it was not only legal but completely necessary in the circumstances. Not to have sunk her would in fact have been a grave dereliction of duty which could have spelt disaster for the Task Force.
    She was sunk at his request for immediate operational and reasons, not for the sake of politics.
    Does the detail mention where the Log of the submarine went to. Just wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Four Leaf Rover View Post
    All of Britain participated in the Falklands including the Falkland Islanders themselves and I'm sure plenty of Irish people serving in the British forces, not just the English.

    The Argentinian military junta was a fascist dictatorship which murdered 10,000 political dissidents in 7 years, some by throwing them into the South Atlantic from military planes. Imagine waking up one morning to find yourself living under such a regime?
    The real winners from the Falklands were the Argentines who have enjoyed democracy ever since.
    Britain was a supporter of fascist dictators who murdered tens of thousands and the junta fell in Argentina due to the trade unions and international pressure, nothing to do with the Malvinas conflict.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bye bye mubarak View Post
    Does the detail mention where the Log of the submarine went to. Just wondering.
    Why? What does Conqueror's missing log have to do with it? We know where Belgrano was sunk, what she was doing at the time and much else besides, what difference does a missing log make?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bye bye mubarak View Post
    Does the detail mention where the Log of the submarine went to. Just wondering.
    Probably "dark forces" within the PSNI or the gang that "bugged"GSOC might have it.
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    [QUOTE=PO'Neill;8147297]Britain was a supporter of fascist dictators who murdered tens of thousands and the junta fell in Argentina due to the trade unions and international pressure, nothing to do with the Malvinas conflict.

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    You got any cash on you because I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you? You know you CAN sometimes admit that the Brits are the good guys in some circumstances, WW2 for instance?

    Yeah, all of NATO backed dictators during the Cold War but today Chile is a free and prosperous society and not another Cuba plus Mugabe actually comes to power as head of a black majority rule government because the Brits don't support the Rhodesian racist regime. It's only later he becomes the tyrant he is today. Considering some of the people Irish Republicanism allied itself to (Hitler, Ghadaffi, the Warsaw Pact etc) you're in no positon to criticize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtharper View Post
    Why? What does Conqueror's missing log have to do with it? We know where Belgrano was sunk, what she was doing at the time and much else besides, what difference does a missing log make?

    None. Since it is missing.
    I think the question is what difference would it make were it not missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by derryman View Post
    None. Since it is missing.
    I think the question is what difference would it make were it not missing?
    None. We know all there is to know about the Belgrano's sinking, the boat's log won't add anything relevant to that. What it would reveal however, is what Conqueror was up to in the Baltic Sea in the months preceding her deployment to the South Atlantic, and that, in the early '80's, was Top Secret.
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    "Hello IT, have you tried turning it off and on?"

    "What did you do! It was working fine this morning!" hahahahahahahhahahhahahha AH
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