Condoms lead to "anarchy, incest, evil"

[20000miles]

IIRC the whole idea of these things being freely available to all and sundry was to drive down the number of unwanted pregnacies and reduce the number of unmarried mothers.

A spectacular failure they have been so!

The correct response to this is: so what?

Indeed.

Soon they'll be imposing them on Catholic schools for the same reasons, with no regard for the pretext and implication they set in the minds of impressionable young men and women.

Who's talking about imposing anything? What do you mean by implications? If a parent does not like school policy they can change schools.

The pill is a disgusting drug for any self-respecting woman to take. It puts her future children's health at risk. The kind of woman who takes the pill is the very kind of woman who will go for the "morning-after pill" (an even more damaging drug to a woman's repoductive system) and even have an abortion should having a baby "interfere" with her career prospects and her never-ending struggle for that "perfect life" -- a utopian middle class fantasy.

Stick to condoms, please.

[tmesis2008]

IIRC the whole idea of these things being freely available to all and sundry was to drive down the number of unwanted pregnacies and reduce the number of unmarried mothers.

A spectacular failure they have been so!

Em, Catalpa, Factorem, how can you be so sure? If condoms weren't freely available would the unwanted pregnancy STD rate be worse or better, do you think?

[jpc]

IIRC the whole idea of these things being freely available to all and sundry was to drive down the number of unwanted pregnacies and reduce the number of unmarried mothers.

A spectacular failure they have been so!

Provided the means but not the education or information in any meaningful way for a long time after.
Durrymachines were taken out of a pub in Douglas in Cork in 1990 because the PP didn't like it.

[Mar Tweedy]

In addition to all those crisis pregnancies* and unmarried mothers, what about all those MARRIED women who had the cheek to plan their families. A large number of those brazen hussies then went back into the paid work force causing all the problems that society now faces.

Whatever about forcing catholic schools to teach boys and girls about sex education, these children, coming from such planned families are at grave moral risk in their own homes of being encouraged by their morally suspect hussy mothers to have protected sex with other people.**.

*even using irony I can't use the 'unwanted' term.
** woops, edited to convey what i meant rather than what i didn't mean.

[droghedasouth]

IIRC the whole idea of these things being freely available to all and sundry was to drive down the number of unwanted pregnacies and reduce the number of unmarried mothers.

A spectacular failure they have been so!

You do not recall correctly.

Contraceptives became available because it is a basic human right as recognised by the Supreme Court.

[corelli]

You do not recall correctly.

Contraceptives became available because it is a basic human right as recognised by the Supreme Court.

The case was McGee v. The Attorney General, as I am sure you know, and was a bit more nuanced than that, but basically thats it.

[droghedasouth]

The case was McGee v. The Attorney General, as I am sure you know, and was a bit more nuanced than that, but basically thats it.

There is a time for subtlety and a time for cutting to the chase.
Catalpa just had to be told in no uncertain terms that his recollection was wrong.

[corelli]

There is a time for subtlety and a time for cutting to the chase.
Catalpa just had to be told in no uncertain terms that his recollection was wrong.

Yes, I suppose. The legislation was brought in on the back of the McGee decision.

[borntorum]

The "Catholic Judges in a Catholic Country" is quite funny. At the time of McGee I am not sure there was anything but Catholics as members of the Supreme Court. Does anybody know. I cant find it anywhere, nor can I remember anyone else bar Mr. Justice Walshe. I think O'Dalaigh had gone to Europe until late in the year.

I think there has always been a policy to have at least one Prod on the SC. I don't know who it was back then. However, the principal judge in McGee was Walsh J who was a strongly republican FFer, and with a name like that, I'm sure was a Catholic

[corelli]

I think there has always been a policy to have at least one Prod on the SC. I don't know who it was back then. However, the principal judge in McGee was Walsh J who was a strongly republican FFer, and with a name like that, I'm sure was a Catholic

I think Budd J. might have been but Walsh undoubtedly was RC. Just a very nice, rational and generous one.