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    Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    Reported in the Irish Times yesterday. I think this is John A. Murphy's old job? Ferriter has his work cut out for him I'd say. This is high profile stuff. That said, he probably be a popular choice and it is deserved.
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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    It marks the end of Revisionist Era.

    There is now no need to re write Irish History to use as a weapon against the Provos.

    Ferriter has enough savvy to keep on the right side of the establishment without sacrificing all of his critical faculties regarding Ireland's attempts to find her place amongst the Nations of the World.
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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    It marks the end of Revisionist Era.

    There is now no need to re write Irish History to use as a weapon against the Provos.

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    You seem to have good knowledge of history yourself. Have you anymore on the above?

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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    It marks the end of Revisionist Era.

    There is now no need to re write Irish History to use as a weapon against the Provos.

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    You seem to have good knowledge of history yourself. Have you anymore on the above?
    Yeah pretty good if I may so myself but i'm not too sure what it is your asking me for.

    If' its on Revisionism in Irish History then I can give you a few pointers but its a huge subject whose origins date back into the 1970s as the Establishment here tried to counter the IRAs claims to be the inheritors of earlier movements to free Ireland from British rule.
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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Nem
    Reported in the Irish Times yesterday. I think this is John A. Murphy's old job? Ferriter has his work cut out for him I'd say. This is high profile stuff. That said, he probably be a popular choice and it is deserved.
    Just to say John A. was Professor at UCC so it isn't his old job
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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    Congratulations to Mr. Ferriter. He will have a challenging job. I understand that he was not favourite amongst the old guard in UCD, being, as he is, popular and, some would say, populist, rather than being gnarled, relatively unknown, and respected! Is he Fannings replacement? I know he is due to retire.
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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    This is a very interesting and possibly controversial appointment. Ferriter has not been a prolific author viz other historians that could have been gunning for the job....However, his media appearances on RTE and any documentary relating to Irish History has obviously been noted by the authorities in UCD. He may be popularising history somewhat, but it will be interesting to see how he gets on with the old guard...personally I;d have preferred to see someone like Alvin Jackson get it.

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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    Quote Originally Posted by Halo
    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    It marks the end of Revisionist Era.

    There is now no need to re write Irish History to use as a weapon against the Provos.

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    You seem to have good knowledge of history yourself. Have you anymore on the above?
    Yeah pretty good if I may so myself but i'm not too sure what it is your asking me for.

    If' its on Revisionism in Irish History then I can give you a few pointers but its a huge subject whose origins date back into the 1970s as the Establishment here tried to counter the IRAs claims to be the inheritors of earlier movements to free Ireland from British rule.
    How did go about doing this then? Did they just make saints of the the IRA 1916-1921 and demonise the men of the 70's and 80's

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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    Quote Originally Posted by sham1983
    He may be popularising history somewhat
    You say that like it's a bad thing.

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    Re: Diarmaid Ferriter - professor Modern Irish History at UCD

    Quote Originally Posted by Halo
    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    Quote Originally Posted by Halo
    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa
    It marks the end of Revisionist Era.

    There is now no need to re write Irish History to use as a weapon against the Provos.

    .
    You seem to have good knowledge of history yourself. Have you anymore on the above?
    Yeah pretty good if I may so myself but i'm not too sure what it is your asking me for.

    If' its on Revisionism in Irish History then I can give you a few pointers but its a huge subject whose origins date back into the 1970s as the Establishment here tried to counter the IRAs claims to be the inheritors of earlier movements to free Ireland from British rule.
    How did go about doing this then? Did they just make saints of the the IRA 1916-1921 and demonise the men of the 70's and 80's
    Different Revisionist Historians approached the subject in different ways.

    Some did as you have described, some tarred all with the same brush and others went for a softer focus that generally portrayed English/British rule over the centuries as being 'legitimate'.

    A classic example would be the 1798 Rising, which gets dubbed a 'Rebellion' and the United Irishmen and the Defenders as 'rebels' fighting against 'Government' forces under the control of the 'Authorities'.

    Another one is frequent references to the 'Irish Government' when they mean the English/British overlords based in Dublin Castle.
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