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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    And they would have taken the whole country in weeks. The Royal Navy would have blocked our ports and the RAF bombed our cities.

    Pragmatism.

    Plus theyre members of NATO so.....
    More than likely - but that's a different debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    And they would have taken the whole country in weeks. The Royal Navy would have blocked our ports and the RAF bombed our cities.

    Pragmatism.

    Plus theyre members of NATO so.....
    I doubt the Crown Forces could take Ireland anyway

    - let alone hold it

    Obviously no other factors involved they could a conventional military victory of sorts

    - and a huge political disaster in the process

    BTW we are in the United Nations and the EU
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
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    the Church hierarchy would be glad that all the Irish soldiers who fought at Jadotville survived.

    So why were they ostracised?


    Because Jville wasn't effing stalingrad.

    They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, end of, and were lucky to make it out.

    The locals saw them like we did the black and tans. Now they're heroes because we have very few heroes.

    Our army accepts being sent to africa, but then gets sued by eejits moaning about malaria jabs, and the shock of seeing all that poverty etc, eejits who should never have been signed up in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McTell View Post
    Because Jville wasn't effing stalingrad.

    They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, end of, and were lucky to make it out.

    The locals saw them like we did the black and tans. Now they're heroes because we have very few heroes.

    Our army accepts being sent to africa, but then gets sued by eejits moaning about malaria jabs, and the shock of seeing all that poverty etc, eejits who should never have been signed up in the first place.
    THE Army goes where they are ordered to by the democratically elected government of the people.
    Civil serpents never learn. penny pinch on the men's equipment ( 20p earplugs) or health in peace time, then the men quite rightly sue.
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    There is also the small matter of the casualties suffered on the Katangan side. Is it justified for a peace keeping force to inflict such casualties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiloh View Post
    There is also the small matter of the casualties suffered on the Katangan side. Is it justified for a peace keeping force to inflict such casualties?
    In the course of defending itself against lethal attack? Of course it is, being a "peace-keeping force" doesn't mean you have to roll over and allow yourself to be killed for God's sake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiloh View Post
    There is also the small matter of the casualties suffered on the Katangan side. Is it justified for a peace keeping force to inflict such casualties?
    If you are hit with a full on attack, including air support, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtharper View Post
    In the course of defending itself against lethal attack? Of course it is, being a "peace-keeping force" doesn't mean you have to roll over and allow yourself to be killed for God's sake!
    indeed, we've seen at Srebrenica what happens when the peace keepers take the passive approach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet Darling View Post
    THE Army goes where they are ordered to by the democratically elected government of the people.
    Civil serpents never learn. penny pinch on the men's equipment ( 20p earplugs) or health in peace time, then the men quite rightly sue.

    More than likely the govt wanted to be seen to be involved, and the army wanted to do something as well.

    Fact is that the UN had kept our application on ice until the end of 1955, because of us being neutral in WW2, so the desire to be the next good doggie on the block was very strong. But when you think about it, we had no business being there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artfoley56 View Post
    indeed, we've seen at Srebrenica what happens when the peace keepers take the passive approach
    Yes, the "peace-keepers"were disgraced and their country humiliated while the people they were supposed to be protecting were massacred.
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