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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    But the Church places a huge emphasis on the sanctity of human life and it practically ran the country at the time. Surely, that meant that the Church thought it was better that the soldiers had surrendered and then came home alive rather than being brought back in bodybags.

    Therefore, you haven't answered my question.
    It didn't "practically run the country", or not in the way you suggest, and certainly not the Department of Defence, which it had little interest in. It ran the schools and hospitals, and intervened in social policy when it felt it necessary, which was rarely, because the politicians knew the lines not to cross already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    I'm guessing this is some kind of psudo-thought experiment because the Church, while practicing lip service, certainly didn't respect the sanctity of life. Tuam etc.

    Also you were getting into the Lemass and Whitaker years which saw the State unshackle some of the more restrictive Religious chains around her neck.
    There's no evidence that the deaths of those babies in Tuam were caused by foul play. It's up to the accuser to prove guilt - that's how the law works. Ireland was poor at the time - diseases were rife and there wasn't much in the way of public healthcare or social welfare.
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    A guess - Embarrassment because of racist undercurrents, a feeling that they had 'let the side down' because they had surrendered to Africans?
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    If it happened today and they radioed in that their backs were to the wall, they would be sacked for homophobia.
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    They had other options, they did not take them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    There's no evidence that the deaths of those babies in Tuam were caused by foul play.
    Neglect rather than active murder. That is supported by the higher death rates than in the general population and the death certificates listing marasmus - which is a euphemism for starvation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhan278 View Post
    They had other options, they did not take them.
    What were the other options?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    Neglect rather than active murder. That is supported by the higher death rates than in the general population and the death certificates listing marasmus - which is a euphemism for starvation.
    Perhaps they were too sick to digest food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    A guess - Embarrassment because of racist undercurrents, a feeling that they had 'let the side down' because they had surrendered to Africans?
    I think they surrendered to experienced French, South African and Belgian mercenaries plus Black cannon fodder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    There's no evidence that the deaths of those babies in Tuam were caused by foul play. It's up to the accuser to prove guilt - that's how the law works. Ireland was poor at the time - diseases were rife and there wasn't much in the way of public healthcare or social welfare.
    Plus there own Families did not want them,
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