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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    The Brits were hoping to join the EEC, not a hope were they going to act like colonial bully's against another European nation. Hence checkout the Cod War with tiny Iceland to see their real power in the world and in fact were facing economic bankruptcy having to be bailed out by the IMF (several decades before our wee one). Besides one telephone call from Washington would have them changing their tune instantly.
    Or the other EEC nations take the view that a small pointless non NATO nation has just tried to invade a part of the UK and got it's ass handed to it (for example France with their international territories would be "unhappy") and laugh at a nation that doesn't bother spending on defence taking on a major NATO nation. Washington is going to take one look at it and say "who benefits us more against the USSR?"

    Again the Cod War is an example of minor and unimportant actions, trying to suggest that it's the same as an invasion against the UK is just stupid beyond reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky42 View Post
    Or the other EEC nations take the view that a small pointless non NATO nation has just tried to invade a part of the UK and got it's ass handed to it (for example France with their international territories would be "unhappy") and laugh at a nation that doesn't bother spending on defence taking on a major NATO nation. Washington is going to take one look at it and say "who benefits us more against the USSR?"

    Again the Cod War is an example of minor and unimportant actions, trying to suggest that it's the same as an invasion against the UK is just stupid beyond reason.
    Contradicting yourself there Naploeon How the world is supposed to see that a small country partitioned by a belligerent colonial nation which is only coming to the aid of people under attack from the state's forces and sectarian mobs would be seen as a colonial style invasion is beyond me !! And again the EEC, the French were very against letting the Brits in to the EEC (might have been right when you look at the fiasco of Brexit and the behavior of Thatcher etc down the years), the last thing the Brits wanted to be seen as was very bad neighbors in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparky42 View Post
    ..... just stupid beyond reason.
    You said it there mate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagel View Post
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    A month later, a number of the Army top brass held a meeting in Mullingar barracks to plan a coup d'etat: they were foiled by An Garda Síochána ...
    Is there any source, apart from Mr Foley (whoever he is), for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtharper View Post
    You said it there mate!
    Oh dear Cruimh is here with his favorite sock puppet
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    The early 70's were rife with rumours of military action in the north, one of the biggest fears was that the Brits would withdraw, leaving the catholic population to the tender mercies of the RUC and B specials. Once the Brits decided to stay and deployed their troops on the streets, there was no question but that they were in charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finbar10 View Post
    My history of this period is a bit sketchy. Is this guy's overall narrative generally unbelievable and running counter to established events, or is it potentially plausible (and might conceivably fit in with what happened) but with no real hard evidence except for his statements?
    It may be pure fantasy or it may be a rumour started deliberately to distract attention from something else - the U.S. airforce used UFO sightings as a distraction from secret test flights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Mr Grouser View Post
    Is there any source, apart from Mr Foley (whoever he is), for that?
    I'm not aware of any. I'd hoped this thread would 'out' some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    The early 70's were rife with rumours of military action in the north, ...
    Mr Foley's letter places the alleged events as happening in August 1969; so that would be against the background of the rioting that occurred across Northern Ireland that month (as chronicled in WIKI).

    The British Army deployed as peacekeepers; but, according to wiki, no British soldier was killed until February 1971 so I can't fathom this story of Wilson offering a British withdrawal.
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    The OP seems like fantasy, no supporting links.
    Some of the responses here are even madder.
    Shortly after internment being introduced, RTE 's main current affairs programme ( Today Tonight ?) had some sort of military analyst looking at the possibility of the Irish army crossing the border to "internationalise" the troubles. He came to the conclusion that the army would have been completely out of its depth in trying to take any territory north of the border and that catholics in Belfast and other areas would have been horribly exposed to sectarian carnage. The budget provided for the army in that and previous years was just about enough to feed and clothe them. Equipment they had was seriously out of date. I didn't see the programme but read a transcript of it in some newspaper a few years later, possibly that issued by the workers' party at the time, but not sure.
    It would probably have fulfilled the fantasies of some of the nutters like Blaney and others to have gone north but a terrible price would have been paid for it.
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