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    Des Quirell Des Quirell is offline
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    In relation to sports and the fight for independence, we uncovered an unusual piece of history from 1921 when researching our cricket club's past.

    The full scorecards of matches were routinely featured in the newspapers and one name cropped up frequently - one "L Satan". We presumed that the "L" represented Lucifer.

    Further digging revealed that he was the son of a very prominent and detested senior member of the Black & Tans. Major Sullevan. I'll need to confirm that, but eitherway, the surname was not a common one, so for the purposes of concealing his identity, the subterfuge of using the surname Satan was used in some ironic sense. The club is based in the Phoenix Park and guaranteeing his personal security would have been all but impossible.

    The club itself was forced to relocate for a couple of years during the War of Independence. A cricket club"s most vital asset is the square and in such a public place as the park it is not possible to protect it. The club relocated temporarily to the RDS after repeated acts of vandalism. To be fair, the club was comprised of civil servants - "castle rats", and was certainly an open manifestation of British rule - a manifestation of British rule at leisure.

    ETA: None of this is intended as whataboutery - it's just intended as additional brushstrokes to the picture.
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    Fixed that for the GAA.
    Today marks the 97th anniversary of the Bloody Sunday atrocity at Croke Park in 1920 when 14 civilians were k̶i̶l̶l̶e̶d̶. Murdered.

    Bloody Sunday victims remembered
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    Quote Originally Posted by james toney View Post
    Fixed that for the GAA.
    Today marks the 97th anniversary of the Bloody Sunday atrocity at Croke Park in 1920 when 14 civilians were k̶i̶l̶l̶e̶d̶. Murdered.

    Bloody Sunday victims remembered
    Lets never forget all those victims of tan brutality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorblade View Post
    Lets never forget all those victims of tan brutality.
    Leo never did when he wore his special poppy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Ronayne View Post
    An interesting article by Anne Dolan from The Historical Journal, 49, 3 (2006), pp789-810, which deals with aspects of the psychological legacy of the operations of the morning of Bloody Sunday 1920, as experienced by some of the men who took part in it:

    Very good on it, including that Lloyd george was not that fussed about it.

    A pity she didn't go to a range and try out some "automatics" - she meant semi-autos. Didn't get that a .45 produces a pressure wave in the arteries that does even more invisible damage.

    A rough day all round, with the Gah seen then as the IRA's physical training and induction arm. So when her maj called by croker in 2011 it was a mutual agreement to bury all those hatchets. Shinty, begob!


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-26734042.html
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