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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Why?
    Personal reasons.
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    Why did the loyalists wish to structure the attack so as to make it look like the band was part of the IRA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether View Post
    Why did the loyalists wish to structure the attack so as to make it look like the band was part of the IRA?
    good question. I think there was an RUC or Garda informer involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian Hermit Monk View Post
    Today's Documentary on One (RTÉ Radio 1) was very sad.

    The effects of the massacre on Fran O'Toole's family were devastating.

    After the Music - The Daughters' Story

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    Susan McKay's article in today's Irish Times about making the documentary:
    A murdered showman. A lost childhood
    I heard the documentary on RTE radio. Apart from recounting the terrible grief of the family, I thought it was an interesting glimpse into parenting back in the mid-70s

    O'Toole's wife Valerie was naturally totally paralysed with grief at the murder of her young husband.--as were her young children at the loss of their father, and as was O'Toole's mother who adored her grandchildren and was very involved in their lives

    In what might seem a strange move to us today, Valerie went on holiday to Spain shortly after the funeral but left her young daughters at home in Bray. While in Spain she met and fell in love with a Canadian.
    She came home, packed up and without saying goodbye to O'Toole's mother or extended family, took the children to Canada, marrying her Canadian and remaining there for the rest of her life.

    O'Toole's mother never saw her grandchildren again. She had lost her son and her grandchildren. She died a few short years later, from a broken heart, her other son insists..

    Today, protecting the children, counselling, etc, would have been a priority..

    The daughters, now middle-aged, spoke of the trauma of that rupture from all they loved in Ireland and all that was familiar to them.
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    Looks like the truth of the Miami Showband murders will soon officially come out with the imminent publication of the Glenane Investigation into the 1975 attempted framing and murders of the band by the British State


    Stephen Travers interviewed by Joe Duffy
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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether View Post
    Why did the loyalists wish to structure the attack so as to make it look like the band was part of the IRA?
    It was to assist in the British/Loyalist narrative that IRA attacks were "launched from across the border"; that the south was "soft on Republican terror"; that border security needed to be tightened even more if not sealed altogether; that all nationalist cultural activities from showbands to the GAA were covers for IRA activity; that all nationalists were secretly Provos, etc etc etc.

    In reality showbands were errrr music bands, the GAA is not "the IRA at play", the vast vast majority of IRA operations were planned and carried out entirely within the Six Counties by Six County personnel, the IRA had significant support in certain areas but most northern nationalists always opposed the armed struggle, and the Dublin establishment were bending over backwards grovelling to please the British on border security.

    The Dublin media however, enthusiastically bought into most of these myths and relentlessly peddled them for the next 40 years. Cretinous nutters like Herren and Listowel are still peddling them.
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    Strange how all the media reports state that a 'bogus' checkpoint stopped the band. It was a checkpoint staged by the British army not fake soldiers. The dead bombers and the ones convicted were all members of the British army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideysGhost View Post
    It was to assist in the British/Loyalist narrative that IRA attacks were "launched from across the border"; that the south was "soft on Republican terror"; that border security needed to be tightened even more if not sealed altogether; that all nationalist cultural activities from showbands to the GAA were covers for IRA activity; that all nationalists were secretly Provos, etc etc etc.

    In reality showbands were errrr music bands, the GAA is not "the IRA at play", the vast vast majority of IRA operations were planned and carried out entirely within the Six Counties by Six County personnel, the IRA had significant support in certain areas but most northern nationalists always opposed the armed struggle, and the Dublin establishment were bending over backwards grovelling to please the British on border security.

    The Dublin media however, enthusiastically bought into most of these myths and relentlessly peddled them for the next 40 years. Cretinous nutters like Herren and Listowel are still peddling them.
    It was never about the North, per se, but their own terror that the Northern Troubles might upset their own cosy cartel down South.

    That is all they have ever been interested in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Eagle of the Ninth View Post
    It was never about the North, per se, but their own terror that the Northern Troubles might upset their own cosy cartel down South.

    That is all they have ever been interested in.
    Yeah, didn't want the cowed and obedient southern serfs being infected by any notions from them uppity rebel scum up north!
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