Nobody has questioned their historical role in this country and their political role in it? Nobody has asked them to have back the stolen churches and cathedrals, many now historical landmarks.
They may not have liked being a minority in a majority catholic state, but they didn't mind being a minority when they were in charge with the might of the British power to back them.
So remind me again, how were/are protestants marginalized in the Free State and later the Rep? In what way did they suffer?
The OO doesn't represent the protestant tradition in this country. 37,000 represent some protestants and not all their traditions. Most protestants don't give a fiddlers for the OO.
I think the OO have every right to march unmolested in Dublin. But as long as they march in areas where they are not welcome in the North then they shouldn;t be made welsome here ie no reception in the Mansion House.
Like I said, discrimination was hardly as rampant in the South as it was in the North, but it existed. What's undoubtedly true is that the Republic was a staunchly Catholic country, and it would remain so for decades.
They are actually a significant part of Protestant culture in both Northern Ireland and to some degree in the Republic, but mainly in Ulster counties. As we are a democracy, we should accept them even if we don't agree with them. The fact is that the Orange on our flag is meant to symbolise Orange tradition, and we should recognise it as such.The OO doesn't represent the protestant tradition in this country. 37,000 represent some protestants and not all their traditions. Most protestants don't give a fiddlers for the OO.
I will admit I haven't much time for them either, as there can be incredible bigotry amongst their ranks.
Protestants and Catholics both discriminated against each other in Irish society. I'd wager that where religious discrimination in the ROI existed, it was generally to the advantage of Protestants. The top tiers of the Bank of Ireland, Guinness, the Irish Times, etc were all dominated by Protestants until the 60s.
I agree that the Irish state was fairly Catholic in its ethos, but that wasn't in isolation from the society which it governed. The reason Ireland was so Catholic was because that's what the vast majority of the people wanted at the time. I don't believe the introduction of divorce was 'anti-Protestant', many Protestants at the time supported the ban on divorce, including some CoI bishops. The Protestant and Catholic churches had a lot in common when it came to views on sex and social issues. Some of that was down to Victorian values, post-Famine demographics etc. and not especially religious in origin.
Trinity college was a bastion of protestant education and to this day has never had a catholic provost. Many protestants held the very best jobs and even managed to become head of state. The medical profession was littered with Trinity graduates. Sure there was isolated incidents of discrimination but in general, protestants were doing very nicely. To this day, 25% of farms over 100 acres are held by protestants. The protestant community hold an enormous amount of wealth, way above their numbers.
As for immigration, surely protestants and catholics were subjected to the same economic climate. You must remember that the Irish state, from its inception, began with little and had to build. Outside of NE Ireland, little industry existed.
Of course I accept the protestant community. I have never seen them as anything other than part of our country and communities. Don't you think that the reason they are not st vocal is because they know this too.
Is accepting an intolerant and bigoted organization really progress, given that they are not accepted by the majority of their own co-religious?