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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Mercedes View Post
    No I wouldn't. A deserter is someone who runs away from a battle. These man ran towards a battle.

    They could have had a cushy time in Ireland during the "Emergency", but instead chose to fight on the side of the Allies against the Nazi's.
    These men deserted their country, and had no way of knowing that Germany or England would not invade Ireland, which they had signed up to defend.
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    everybody seems to have fallen for this - a caper designed to get the economy off the front pages even for a few days with no qualms about using the "deserters" to do so - and will be glad to see the back of shatter!!!!!
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    Shatter should desert to the British government. Our gain will be their loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Mercedes View Post
    No I wouldn't. A deserter is someone who runs away from a battle. These man ran towards a battle.

    They could have had a cushy time in Ireland during the "Emergency", but instead chose to fight on the side of the Allies against the Nazi's.
    And that's the clincher isn't it: we feel we can justify any agenda by inserting it was 'against the Nazi's'? Almost Nazi like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by edifice. View Post
    And that's the clincher isn't it: we feel we can justify any agenda by inserting it was 'against the Nazi's'? Almost Nazi like!
    It's not Godwins when one is referring to the actual Nazi's.
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    so true edifice. Its just not the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Mercedes View Post
    It's not Godwins when one is referring to the actual Nazi's.
    But it is Godwins when the 'point' being made depends on the Nazis to bolster it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edifice. View Post
    But it is Godwins when the 'point' being made depends on the Nazis to bolster it.
    They fought the Nazi's. I know you wish they hadn't, and had found a more morally opaque foe to fight against instead. But they did fight the Nazi's. It's a fact.
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    Any act they undertook, subsequent to desertion including fighting the nazis, is not relevant to their act of desertion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Mercedes View Post
    They fought the Nazi's. I know you wish they hadn't, and had found a more morally opaque foe to fight against instead. But they did fight the Nazi's. It's a fact.
    And there it is again: any presumption can be made by invoking 'it was against the Nazi's'. Truly pathetic!
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