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    Hitler gave go-ahead to Hess to make peace with Britain

    New evidence discovered in Russian archives suggests Hitler supported the mission of Rudolf Hess to make peace with the British just weeks before the start of Operation Barbarossa. Previously it was believed Hess acted on his own initiative.

    Stalin was deeply suspicious of the British during the war and this incident contributed to his paranoia. He feared the British lured the Germans on to attack the USSR.

    Years ago there was a documentary on RTE radio where the son of Hess was interviewed. He maintained his father was murdered by British operatives in 1987.

    Rudolf Hess’s flight to Britain during World War Two in a bizarre attempt to secure peace was backed by Adolf Hitler, fresh documents claim.

    History has long recorded that the Nazi number three was acting alone when he piloted a Messerschmitt to Scotland in May 1941.
    But a 28-page notebook discovered in a Russian archive disputes this theory and indicates that Hitler was in on the mission. It was written in 1948 by Major Karlheinz Pintsch, a long-time adjutant to Hess.

    He was captured by the Soviets and spent years undergoing torture and interrogation at their hands.

    In the notebook he writes that Hitler hoped that an ‘agreement with the Englishmen would be successful’.

    Pintsch notes that Hess’s task – five weeks before Germany launched its invasion of Russia – was to ‘bring about, if not a military alliance of Germany with England against Russia, then to bring about a neutralisation of England’.
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    It's well known to anyone who has read Mein Kampf that Hitler wanted an alliance with Britain and Italy.

    There was lots of contact between the nazi's and senior British officals.

    The main opposition to this was our old friend Churchill, who no doubt thought that Britian's influence and control of markets would be taken over by Germany and did all he could to scupper this alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breadan O'Connor View Post
    New evidence discovered in Russian archives suggests Hitler supported the mission of Rudolf Hess to make peace with the British just weeks before the start of Operation Barbarossa. Previously it was believed Hess acted on his own initiative.

    Stalin was deeply suspicious of the British during the war and this incident contributed to his paranoia. He feared the British lured the Germans on to attack the USSR.

    Years ago there was a documentary on RTE radio where the son of Hess was interviewed. He maintained his father was murdered by British operatives in 1987.

    Read more: Hitler 'gave go-ahead to Rudolf Hess peace mission' | Mail Online
    A lot of this 'information' seems to come from a man who was violently tortured for many years by the Soviets; this is not normally viewed as a reliable way to collect information.

    As to Britain making a deal; I would see that as unlikely, particularly at that point in the war. Such a deal would have gone contrary to centuries of consistent English and then British policy towards the European continent.
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    There's never been any convincing evidence Hitler knew about any of this. If he wanted to arrange something with the British this was a silly way to do so. Hess was just a figurehead and was never close to Hitler who ignored him for years. Hess displayed symptoms of instability for years and was strictly banned from flying. Goering had more reason to be involved and was alarmed at the prospect of war with russia. The attempt to control the skies over england had failed and Goering was held responsible. He was hardly a rock of stability himself and maybe he saw a chance to influence events? In the end i think Hess just lost it and went alone. But i did wonder was someone other than Hitler involved. Who else could have acquired the aircraft?
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    the Nazi's had made many overtures to form an alliance with the political elites in the UK. There is film footage of them out foxhunting with them before the war. Considering it was the British who invented concentration camps & Churchill was an imperial racist warmonger - the ideological difference between the two groups was less than many imagined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Newgrange View Post
    the Nazi's had made many overtures to form an alliance with the political elites in the UK. There is film footage of them out foxhunting with them before the war. Considering it was the British who invented concentration camps & Churchill was an imperial racist warmonger - the ideological difference between the two groups was less than many imagined.
    Cue images of goosestepping Englishmen !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Newgrange View Post
    the Nazi's had made many overtures to form an alliance with the political elites in the UK. There is film footage of them out foxhunting with them before the war. Considering it was the British who invented concentration camps & Churchill was an imperial racist warmonger - the ideological difference between the two groups was less than many imagined.
    Maybe the British invented concentration camps,don't know. But the Nazis didnt have many concentration camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    Cue images of goosestepping Englishmen !
    Indeed, they'ed need to be quick to keep step with their football team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by drummed View Post
    Hess displayed symptoms of instability for years and was strictly banned from flying.

    He was not alone. Heydrich was wont to do a bit of recreational flying himself but he too was banned.

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    I believe Heydrich was banned because he was considered too valuable to risk losing

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