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    “Hitler gave go-ahead to Hess to make peace with Britain”

    Absolute and utter balderdash. Never happened. It amazes me how some people will simply believe something however silly just because they want it to be true.

    And as regards Reinhard Heydrich, he was born into a very well to do Catholic family in Halle an der Saale in 1904.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breadan O'Connor View Post
    Interestingly Heydrich was plagued by rumors of having jewish ancestry.

    There was apparently a party investigation led by Gregor Strasser which exonerated him.

    Strasser was murdered in the night of the long knives

    Reinhardt Heydrich
    Yes, I've heard and read about that, but probably not true. However, there were a few Jews who were given "Honorary Aryan status" in Nazi Germany. Someone in Opressian bank(spelling all wrong), if my memory is correct. If Heydrich was a Jew, that could be a possibility that. I very much doubt it though.

    I think that's why Himmler didn't get rid of him, but instead promoted him during this, is Heydrich a Jew phase. It turned out to be a good move, as he showed complete indifference towards them and as you know, ended up heading the Wanness Conference.

    They were all hypocrites in one way or another. Speaking of Wanness, Roland Friesler was at that and he was a communist for a short period. And if you think about it. If Hitler had of been discovered by the Gestapo as dodging military service like he did when called upon by the Austrian Army to serve, would he have survived his own system he dreamed of? Highly doubtful. A pure skinny, indolent, drifter, living off his father's inheritance wouldn't have survived the Nazi state. Hitler detested physical labor and a routine, if you read Kershaw's auto about him. That's not to take away from his fight in WW1. He was a very brave and noble runner, but he was the antithesis of the aryan. Like most of them.

    But there are loads of rumors out there with no facts to back them up. There is a rumor that Hitler's father was a illegitimate child to a Rothschild!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Aphorisms View Post
    Yes, I've heard and read about that, but probably not true. However, there were a few Jews who were given "Honorary Aryan status" in Nazi Germany. Someone in Opressian bank(spelling all wrong), if my memory is correct. If Heydrich was a Jew, that could be a possibility that. I very much doubt it though.

    I think that's why Himmler didn't get rid of him, but instead promoted him during this, is Heydrich a Jew phase. It turned out to be a good move, as he showed complete indifference towards them and as you know, ended up heading the Wanness Conference.

    They were all hypocrites in one way or another. Speaking of Wanness, Roland Friesler was at that and he was a communist for a short period. And if you think about it. If Hitler had of been discovered by the Gestapo as dodging military service like he did when called upon by the Austrian Army to serve, would he have survived his own system he dreamed of? Highly doubtful. A pure skinny, indolent, drifter, living off his father's inheritance wouldn't have survived the Nazi state. Hitler detested physical labor and a routine, if you read Kershaw's auto about him. That's not to take away from his fight in WW1. He was a very brave and noble runner, but he was the antithesis of the aryan. Like most of them.

    But there are loads of rumors out there with no facts to back them up. There is a rumor that Hitler's father was a illegitimate child to a Rothschild!

    Hitler's family doctor was a Jew whom he regarded very highly. He later said of him: "If all Jews were like him, we would not have a Jewish problem."


    Hitler dodged military service in the Austrian army because he despised the Hapsburg regime. He crossed the border into Germany and volunteered in a Bavarian regiment.

    For anyone interested, this book by his boyhood friend is very revealing on Hitler's character.

    The Young Hitler I knew : August Kubizek : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

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    I read Berlin, Anthony Beevors account of the last days of the third reich. And throughout it there was evidence that Hitler continually ignored advice from his generals. He was resistant until the very end in terms of surrendering to the Allied forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urmentor View Post
    I read Berlin, Anthony Beevors account of the last days of the third reich. And throughout it there was evidence that Hitler continually ignored advice from his generals. He was resistant until the very end in terms of surrendering to the Allied forces.
    Who's talking about surrendering to the Allies?

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    The insinuation is that Hitler was going to make a truce with Britian. Im saying there is no evidence on past behaviour to suggest that this was the case. He fooled them once and he didnt fool them again.

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    This is an old chesnut going back ages. It has never been proven.

    Of course, Stalin was suspicious of Churchill. Stalin was a paranoid who suspected even his own family. What do you expect from a dictator who had murdered a few million people?

    Hess was a weak, impotent character who was desperate to regain credibiity with the Fuhrer. It is true he led the Nazis while Hitler was in jail, but Hitler chose him because he knew Hess was no threat to his position. Indeed, Hess' "leadership" was non-existent. He was the last man Hitler would have chosen for an important mission.

    Reports are that Hitler was shocked when he heard what Hess had done, and dismissed him as mentally unstable.

    Incidentally, it was the Russians who insisted that Hess stay in jail until he died.
    "A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence" - David Hume

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urmentor View Post
    The insinuation is that Hitler was going to make a truce with Britian. Im saying there is no evidence on past behaviour to suggest that this was the case. He fooled them once and he didnt fool them again.
    Hitler did want peace with Britain and had made several public overtures to them, but from a position of strength. He certainly was not talking about surrendering to them. British politicians in fact argued that to make peace with Germany would amount to a surrender on Britain's part.

    Hitler ideally wanted Britain as an ally in his attack on the Soviet Union, (perhaps more for political and ideological reasons than military ones), whereby Germany would annex the western part of that country while Britain would extend their Empire north and west of India at the Russian's expense.

    Hitler admired and approved of the British Empire and had no quarrel with them. Remember, it was the British who declared war on Germany, not the other way round.

    He wanted the British to "see sense" and either join him in his crusade against Bolshevism, or at the very least remain neutral. He considered them fellow Aryans.
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