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    Goban Saor Goban Saor is offline

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    The Dail has legal authority.

    Fact. Parliamentary democracy was created illegally. In fact, authority does not exist. It is a concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruimh View Post
    So much for the claim that SF have always been a republican party - and amusing that when Adams and SF celebrated their centenary in 2005 they were celebrating the foundation of a Monarchist party which would have loved what NI currently has for the Whole Island
    Almost as amusing as a unionist first minister in a home rule assembly

    I guess all sorts of principles are up for negotiation once any particular group is satisfied they will enjoy a majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myksav View Post
    Then who was that fat dude in red that kept triggering the anti-air defences with his flying about in an unregistered air vehicle?

    Hah, the best trick Santa played was to convince everyone he didn't exist....oh wait, that's a typo, isn't it?

    Santa is Kaizer Soze?

    That explains a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goban Saor View Post
    The Dail has legal authority.

    Fact. Parliamentary democracy was created illegally. In fact, authority does not exist. It is a concept.
    How was it created illegally?
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    Fubsss Fubsss is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickWilly View Post
    Any contributions-
    My 3 1. The French revoulutionaries give us our tricolour as a gift, supposedly given to the United Irishmen. Though I love this one it is sadly a myth!
    2. Congress in the US voted by a margin of 7 votes many moons ago to make English the national language over German. It did not happen at all and the United States, it seems has no official national lingo anyway. Imagine had German become their national language, how the world would have changed!
    3. The rhyme 'Ring a Ring a Rosie' is about the black death - no it isn't!
    Lads and lassies please no libels on this one and no religious bashing whatever the religeon. Just popular myths that have gained currency to be debunked!
    I think if you're "debunking", myths, you should say why they aren't true and what the truth is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Chaim View Post
    Ah the vast majority of them supported him. Some didn't, but the majority did. He represented the majority of the Palestinian people. I'm just reminding everyone of the widespread Palestinian support for Nazism and that Nazi war criminals were given asylum in Egypt after the war and helped the Egyptian government in attacks against Israeli civilian targets after 1948.

    al-Husseini was the leader of the Palestinian people and he had the support of most of them. He was Hitler's partner in genocide and he had the support of the majority of the Paestinian people an he is still a hero to many Palestinians, including the last PLO leader, Arafat.
    was he elected?how do you know he had the support of the majority of Palestinians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goban Saor View Post
    The Dail has legal authority.

    Fact. Parliamentary democracy was created illegally. In fact, authority does not exist. It is a concept.
    Deep, bro. Pass the bong.
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    The greatest myth of all?

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytoDs2i2rK0]YouTube - Father Dougal doubts.avi[/ame]
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    Corcaighlad Corcaighlad is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by nixmix View Post
    So you're saying it was a famine?
    famine - Wiktionary
    He's saying it wasn't genocide...

    Incompetence, inadequacy of relief, unjust policies towards Irish catholics, failed work relief programs - yes. However if you are deliberately and systematically trying to destory an ethnic group would you allow the same group safe passage elsewhere? Read about the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and you'll understand better what genocide is. Read about Darfur's mass murders and mutilations...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corcaighlad View Post
    He's saying it wasn't genocide...

    Incompetence, inadequacy of relief, unjust policies towards Irish catholics, failed work relief programs - yes. However if you are deliberately and systematically trying to destory an ethnic group would you allow the same group safe passage elsewhere? Read about the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and you'll understand better what genocide is. Read about Darfur's mass murders and mutilations...
    "Safe passage elsewhere" was likely consistent with the perceived interests of the imperial regime. In any case, the enforcement of conditions that strongly encouraged immigration could fall into category "e" of Article II of the genocide convention, in so far as the offspring of Irish immigrants would inevitably have been assimilated into host societies.

    It's simply inconceivable that the Irish would've tolerated that system in the absence of British military might.

    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
    - Article II of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (emphasis added)

    If memory serves, food exports during the “famine” either remained constant or actually increased. I find it extremely difficult to believe that the British state (I include here the British military forces in Ireland.) had no idea of what would be the consequences of not closing the ports, etc. After all, the ports were closed in the “famine” of the late 18th century.

    Also, the British government attempted to block relief ships sent by the Turkish sultan. Victoria also specifically requested that the Turkish sultan lower his donation to Irish farmers from 10,000 to 1,000.
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