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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwithirony View Post
    The manner in which it was dealt with, or rather not dealt with, is the atrocity, "brains". As was the slave trade. As was the almost entire destruction of the indigenous peoples of North & South America, Australia, Tasmania, etc etc. As was the subjugation of millions & massacre of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, in Africa & Asia. As was the intentional destruction of indigenous industries & consequent impoverishment of the peoples of India, Ireland, etc etc. "Brains".
    I see cry freedom summed up your mental universe pretty succinctly and accurately:

    Do you scour history books just to pick out tasty morsels to feed your anti British addiction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwithirony View Post
    Additionally, a very strong case may & indeed has been made that the famines in both India & Ireland occurred as a consequence of British policies in both those countries. I'm not saying it was or was not intentional, there's a whole thread on that elsewhere which you can peruse at your leisure.
    Still doesn't make it an 'atrocity' though, does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifor Bach View Post
    I see cry freedom summed up your mental universe pretty succinctly and accurately:

    Do you scour history books just to pick out tasty morsels to feed your anti British addiction?
    Clearly, you only see what you want to see. Or you're unable to read properly. Or perhaps a bit of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifor Bach View Post
    Still doesn't make it an 'atrocity' though, does it.
    Exporting food, denying access to food or food aid while a famine is ongoing, in the name of a self-serving ideology which helped to bring the famine about in the first place, most certainly is an atrocity. Maybe you & your ilk should undergo the same experience at least once in your life so you may understand more clearly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwithirony View Post
    Clearly, you only see what you want to see. Or you're unable to read properly. Or perhaps a bit of both.
    I understand.

    So when you wrote this, you didn't scour the history books just to pick out tasty morsels to feed your anti-British addiction.

    . As was the slave trade. As was the almost entire destruction of the indigenous peoples of North & South America, Australia, Tasmania, etc etc. As was the subjugation of millions & massacre of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, in Africa & Asia. As was the intentional destruction of indigenous industries & consequent impoverishment of the peoples of India, Ireland, etc etc.

    It's very good to have you here to explain all of this to us, otherwise you might imagine easily get mistaken for one of those moronic, knee-jerk, anglophobic bigots who infest this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwithirony View Post
    Exporting food, denying access to food or food aid while a famine is ongoing, in the name of a self-serving ideology which helped to bring the famine about in the first place, most certainly is an atrocity. Maybe you & your ilk should undergo the same experience at least once in your life so you may understand more clearly?
    No, it isn't.

    It's hardly my fault if you simply don't know what the word actually means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifor Bach View Post
    I understand.

    So when you wrote this, you didn't scour the history books just to pick out tasty morsels to feed your anti-British addiction.

    . As was the slave trade. As was the almost entire destruction of the indigenous peoples of North & South America, Australia, Tasmania, etc etc. As was the subjugation of millions & massacre of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, in Africa & Asia. As was the intentional destruction of indigenous industries & consequent impoverishment of the peoples of India, Ireland, etc etc.

    It's very good to have you here to explain all of this to us, otherwise you might imagine easily get mistaken for one of those moronic, knee-jerk, anglophobic bigots who infest this site.
    Why did you leave the following sentence out? - "[Note I'm not limiting this list to the British, it applies to all 18th/19th/20th century European empires. And remember, my first post on this thread adressed the Roman Empire]"

    If you're not capable of honest debate don't address me again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifor Bach View Post
    No, it isn't.

    It's hardly my fault if you simply don't know what the word actually means.
    Denying millions access to food or food aid most certainly is an atrocity. You're incapable of honest debate so unless you address specific points I'll ignore you from now on.

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