Fine Gael economic mismanagement: 1980's. Can anyone defend it?

[controller]

Oh my God ...........not another one of those stupid treads blaming the other side, without looking at the full picture. I would suggest bringing back Economic History, which I believe was withdrawn as a subject in 2004 ish.
If u do want to defend anything, try to defend the economic mismanagement of the economy during the last decade

[tonic]

Yes, but why should I?

[hiding behind a poster]

No, the OP criticises FG management of the economy from 82 to 87 and you won't engage with it because you know it's indefensible. That's it really. If you have no interest in a thread because of the subject matter that's fair enough but don't be disingenuous about it.

No, as I said already, anyone qualified in macro-economics at any level knows that to analyse any period of time you have to put the starting point in the context of the years that immediately preceded it. I'm sorry if that's too complicated for you and Congaltee.

[meriwether]

No, as I said already, anyone qualified in macro-economics at any level knows that to analyse any period of time you have to put the starting point in the context of the years that immediately preceded it. I'm sorry if that's too complicated for you and Congaltee.

Dont bother old chap, you'll only give yourself a hernia.

[Congalltee]

No, as I said already, anyone qualified in macro-economics at any level knows that to analyse any period of time you have to put the starting point in the context of the years that immediately preceded it. I'm sorry if that's too complicated for you and Congaltee.

I have done that a number of times, here is the Idiots guide
lynch - terrible, abolished taxes and increased spending.
Haughey 79 to 82 - utterly hopeless.
Fitzgerald 81 - nothing positive done.
Now, over to you to comment on Fitzgerald 82 to 87, if you are capable of an honest assessment...

[cyberianpan]

It would appear the defense strategy is simply outright denial

Of course, if the FGers here admitted the obvious mismanagement (as Garret Fitzgerald has done) ... that would of course leave them open to the question "so how will it work with Labour this time?"

cYp

[The_Big_Fellow]

1. The economy of purely fecked after years of FF in power.

2. Labour/FG couldn't agree as to the best way to clean up FF's mess and therefore couldn't fix it properly.

Worth noting that this time around FF are being forced to pick up the pieces left by their own mismanagement of the economy. Also, thread title and OP statement is loaded and reeks of an FF hack completely uninterested in debate, only shouting from a pulpit an attack on the "blueshirts".

The Pop idol Taoiseach Jack Lynch, ran the country in to the red in 79,at such a pace that we broke records for debt growth. He bought an election. I think the Govt. the Fitzgerald led were dealt a rotten hand. The country was broke.

I'm no fan of Garret, I think he is an awful man.

[Congalltee]

It would appear the defense strategy is simply outright denial

Of course, if the FGers here admitted the obvious mismanagement (as Garret Fitzgerald has done) ... that would of course leave them open to the question "so how will it work with Labour this time?"

cYp

In fairness DaveHigz and King Kane have accepted that the government should have been better.
HbaP- tried to sabotage the thread
Edo - went personal
Simbo - just went dumb.

The rest have just sniped. It is comical.

THE ANSWER TO THE THREAD QUESTION IS THAT NO SANE PERSON CAN DEFEND ECONOMIC MANAGEMENT OF THE ECONOMY FROM 1977 TO 1987.

[hiding behind a poster]

It would appear the defense strategy is simply outright denial

Of course, if the FGers here admitted the obvious mismanagement (as Garret Fitzgerald has done) ... that would of course leave them open to the question "so how will it work with Labour this time?"

cYp

And what "obvious mismanagement" is that? No-one has ever claimed that that government was perfect, or that it got nothing wrong. Unfortunately, however, some of the economic illiterates on this site seem to think that when a government takes office it can start with a clean slate in terms of the economy - which is of course arrant nonsense.

[hiding behind a poster]

In fairness DaveHigz and King Kane have accepted that the government should have been better.
HbaP- tried to sabotage the thread
Edo - went personal
Simbo - just went dumb.

The rest have just sniped. It is comical.

THE ANSWER TO THE THREAD QUESTION IS THAT NO SANE PERSON CAN DEFEND ECONOMIC MANAGEMENT OF THE ECONOMY FROM 1977 TO 1987.

Except that that wasn't actually the thread question. Go take a look - you should know, after all, its your thread.