Michael Collins-movie

[eurocrat]

It's also not ridiculous considering the fact that he just went into hiding during the Civil War and is the only leading figure that I can think of who did that.

If Collins had been that sensible things might have worked out differently.

[Rocky]

It's also not ridiculous considering the fact that he just went into hiding during the Civil War and is the only leading figure that I can think of who did that.

If Collins had been that sensible things might have worked out differently.

I don't think it would have been sensible of Collins to go into hiding instead of taking control of the Free State Army, which he did a good job of leading before he died. No he shouldn't have gone into areas that were still controlled by the irregulars, but there's a big difference between that and going into hiding.

[st333ve]

The wind that shakes the barley portrays what was happening at the time a lot better, and it doesnt glorify murder or take away the sence of how brutal the IRA were.
This film takes place around the same time as the Michael Collins film, but shows what was going on behind the scene in a small rural community.
Both these films portray those that were pro-treaty as traitors, and the wind that shakes the barley doesnt hold back as much in showing this, you can watch a clip of it here.

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ty6Qrck98 <<

Yes the free stsae did abandon their irish brothers in the north and threw all their crap up there and forgot about it, the government after the treaty has been getting more and more pro-unionism as years have went by, and so have the people.

"if we stop short now, never in our life time will we see this energy again"
Sounds spot on to me.

"the brits arnt leaving theyre goin 3 hundred miles up the road"

[thegeneral]

The Michael Collins film does exactly what it says on the tin: its a FG film for FGers, written and produced by FGers, especially the last hour of it and while it did well at the box office in Ireland it bombed in the US and in most of Europe, a fitting tribute to the director.

The Treaty is a superior piece of film as it is more accurate and actually portrays other significant protaganists of the time: Brugha, Griffith, Childers etc. who are written out of the film as is their intertwined relationship. No serious piece of historical work on the period could write all three out of the script while building up Collins and claim any form of accuracy.

The Treaty was repeated on RTE about 7-8 years ago and is still available on dvd as I understand it. I have it on video myself. The main historical text used for the Treaty is Pakenham's "Peace by Ordeal."