Frozen embryos do not have a right to life - High Court

[madura]

yes I presume some, or a lot of, "pro-life" women do think that. Yes, it follows that the anti-war protestor might feel it's worth showing a gruesome image at the risk of upsetting war victims families and young children to get across the point of the brutality of war. Would that be an effective way to get an "anti-war" message across? Would it be worth the upset and negative press? Maybe.

However, look at the issue of 3rd world famine campaiging. Campaigners have been using images of starving children for years to highlight the reality of the situation, which also worked intially. However, now there's a case to be made for Irish society's immunity to these images and their decreased effectiveness. (They are no longer shocking).

So there are diminishing returns involved? But that's a slightly different argument, one that would be more likely to appeal to those trying to use shocking images than those who oppose their use, I would have thought.

Individuals differ in their propensity to find something upsetting, however, women who have miscarriages or families of war victims have had something happen to them that justifies their upset more that a homphobe or a racist, as homophobia and racism are generally accepted as positions of ignorance and a problem for this society now.

They're not in a contest, are they? Just because we reject the claims of racists doesn't mean we have to respect the sensitivities of women who have had miscarriages, or at least not to the point of sacrificing our freedom to try to change views or behaviour.

[stringjack]

However, point taken. Short and snappy is clearly not my thing.

Well, that was directed at Pidge, but duly noted.

Individuals differ in their propensity to find something upsetting, however, women who have miscarriages or families of war victims have had something happen to them that justifies their upset more that a homphobe or a racist, as homophobia and racism are generally accepted as positions of ignorance and a problem for this society now.

But:

Feeling 'upset' is generally considered to be an involuntary emotional reaction. People are either upset or they are not - where can legitimacy come into it?