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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    On the one hand we have a respected international body and the overwhelming majority of the world's scientists supported by some impressive evidence, e.g. the eradication of smallpox.

    On the other hand we have an anonymous internet poster.

    With the greatest respect Soubresauts, there wont be too many reasonable people standing with you on this.
    Baron and others please watch this video!

    [ame=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6890106663412840646]Mercury, Autism and the Global Vaccine Agenda[/ame]
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    What problems where there in the past with Swine Flu Vaccine?

    In the first ten days of the [Vaccine] program, more than one million people were vaccinated. Then, first in Pittsburgh and later elsewhere, came reports of deaths following vaccinations. A final tragedy came in December. A rare paralytic disease called Guillain-Barré syndrome was reported in a few people who had been vaccinated. It was never clear whether the syndrome was related to the swine flu vaccine, but it was clear that the program had to be suspended. The mass-immunization program ended on 16 December and was not resumed. The ...
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    In the fall of 1976, dozens of Americans died within 48 hours of receiving a swine flu vaccine. To allay the public fears that threatened to unravel the mass inoculation program, President Gerald Ford rolled up his shirtsleeve and received his shot in front of television cameras.

    More than 40 million others followed his lead. But two months later, the campaign was abruptly stopped: More deaths had followed, and hundreds were reporting serious side effects, including paralysi...
    "They moved too quickly. Mistakes were made," said Harvey V. Fineberg, president of the National Academies' Institute of Medicine, who investigated the scandal for the federal government. "People had vivid memories of the 1918 flu epidemic, of young people dropping dead. It colored everything."
    [SOurce:Officals Urged to heed lessons of 1976]

    So considering this new vaccine is being rushed out with minimal / no testing, are we really heeding the errors of the past? 16,000 children (who dont really have much to say about their own lives or what happens to them) are being used a ginuea pigs in the US. They will be the first to be vaccinated.

    The whole thing stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jquinn View Post

    How come since there is no vaccine for normal seasonal flu...there is a vaccine for swine flu?
    There is a vaccine for "normal " seasonal flu. Every year different strains of flu emerge. Places like the center for disease control collect these strains and develop an "all in one" vaccine against them. You can get a flu vaccine from your local GP in about sep/oct. The problem with Swine flu is that it developed at an unusual time of year and caught the health authorities on the hop so to speak, hence the rush to make enough of the vaccine before winter. When the schools are back it will spread like wildfire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malboury View Post
    Cryptosporidium is a well documented world wide disease though, isn't it? I mean, I doubt the gov. put it in the water. That's a pretty extraordinary claim, with no supporting evidence I can think of. If the government wanted to make money from water sales in Galway, they could just legislate some more taxation. Besides, the PR hit they took from the Galway water issues was far worse. Like a lot of conspiracy theories, shmuck, I'd say that one is false too. No evidence and it'd make more sense just to use totally legal taxation methods to make money. Sorry...
    who mentioned the gov wanting to make money???????,I used it as an analogy of somebody else trying to make money...it's as easy as as that.A shortage of water in an emergency creates sales for bottled water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shmuck View Post
    The agency that licenses medicines in Britain has received 150 reports of suspected adverse reactions to the Tamiflu treatment for swine flu.
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    out of how many administrations? Was the vaccine interacting with drugs already administered to the patient or was the patient not taking anything? There are always a certain amount of adverse reactions to medicines when they are administered. Some minor side effects, some major. Also if a person has a pre-existing condition, the condition and the medicine they are taking for that condition can interact with a new medicine. It is the responsibility of doctors to report all reactions so the medical community can build up a picture of these interactions. If a severe adverse reaction or interaction becomes statistically significant, advice is sent out to doctors not to administer it to that type of patient or change/stop one of the medicines so that the patient can take the more important one.

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    Oh, sorry shmuck, I thought you were implying that the outbreak of crypto in Galway last year was arranged by someone as a money making scheme, as you were suggesting in the same post that the Swine Flu outbreak was arranged to make money for pharmaceutical companies. My bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhonda15 View Post
    Baron and others please watch this video!

    Mercury, Autism and the Global Vaccine Agenda
    I press play, nowt happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Biffo View Post
    I press play, nowt happens.
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    Gardasil Causes 400 Percent More Deaths than Other Common Vaccine

    A federal report has concluded that the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine Gardasil has a 400 percent higher rate of adverse effects than another comparable vaccine, the Menactra anti-meningitis shot.

    "It is unusual for there to be such a big discrepancy between two vaccines used in similar populations involving serious and relatively rare life threatening adverse events and autoimmune disorders," the researchers from the federal Vaccine Events Reporting System wrote.

    Gardasil Causes 400 Percent More Deaths than Other Common Vaccine
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhonda15 View Post
    A federal report has concluded that the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine Gardasil has a 400 percent higher rate of adverse effects than another comparable vaccine, the Menactra anti-meningitis shot.

    "It is unusual for there to be such a big discrepancy between two vaccines used in similar populations involving serious and relatively rare life threatening adverse events and autoimmune disorders," the researchers from the federal Vaccine Events Reporting System wrote.

    Gardasil Causes 400 Percent More Deaths than Other Common Vaccine
    Two words. Sanofi Pasteur
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