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    The last pig pox vaccination program led to many cases of Guillain-Barre Syndrome. What the side effects of this new untested vaccine will be is anyones guess. Nice to see that the elderly, young and pregnant will be experimented on first.

    Will the Dept of health go ahead with their forced vaccination program ?

    “The Minister may by order declare that-”

    “it is necessary, for the purpose of preventing the spread of a particular infectious disease, that all adult persons should submit themselves to a specified measure in relation to their protection or immunisation against such infectious disease”

    “The Minister may by order declare that—”

    “it is necessary, for the purpose of preventing the spread of a particular infectious disease, that all children should be submitted to a specified measure in relation to their protection or immunisation against that infectious disease”.

    Section 38 contains a purposeful loophole to detain anyone. It legalises the detention of, by force if necessary, people who are not identified as infected but are a “probable” source. The name of section 38 is “Detention and isolation of person who is probable source of infection” and it states the following, “force may, if necessary, be used for the purpose of carrying out any provision of this subsection.”

    Health Act section 40 gives the government the right to detain people in government facilities not just hospitals with the following line, “the order to allow for the patient’s isolation in a hospital or other place convenient“. Part 2 of section 38 redefines the word person into patient: “(2) Where an order is made under this section in relation to a person (in this subsection referred to as the patient), the following provisions shall have effect[….]”. This makes it legal for the government imprison people known not to be infected and label them as patients, different laws apply to patients under this medical bill.

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    Ten things you're not supposed to know about the swine flu vaccine

    (At least, not by anyone in authority...)

    #1 - The vaccine production was "rushed" and the vaccine has never been tested on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for Big Pharma? If so, line up for your swine flu vaccine this fall...

    #2 - Swine flu vaccines contain dangerous adjuvants that cause an inflammatory response in the body. This is why they are suspected of causing autism and other neurological disorders.

    #3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine.

    #4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so many people. And that means they really have no clue whether the upcoming vaccine might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're not testing it, either...)

    #5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete immunity against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket immunity, drug companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because they only get paid based on quantity, not safety (zero liability).

    #6 - No swine flu vaccine works as well as vitamin D to protect you from influenza. That's an inconvenient scientific fact that the U.S. government, the FDA and Big Pharma hope the people never realize.

    #7 - Even if the swine flu vaccine actually works, mathematically speaking if everyone else around you gets the vaccine, you don't need one! (Because it can't spread through the population you hang with.) So even if you believe in the vaccine, all you need to do is encourage your friends to go get vaccinated...

    #8 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of swine flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if you don't get the jab -- because it's all paid by the taxpayers.

    #9 - When people start dying in larger numbers from the swine flu, rest assured that many of them will be the very people who got the swine flu vaccine. Doctors will explain this away with their typical Big Pharma logic: "The number saved is far greater than the number lost." Of course, the number "saved" is entirely fictional... imaginary... and exists only in their own warped heads.

    #10 - The swine flu vaccine centers that will crop up all over the world in the coming months aren't completely useless: They will provide an easy way to identify large groups of really stupid people. (Too bad there isn't some sort of blue dye that we could tag 'em with for future reference...)

    Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine by Mike Adams the Health Ranger
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhonda15 View Post
    (At least, not by anyone in authority...)

    #1 - The vaccine production was "rushed" and the vaccine has never been tested on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for Big Pharma? If so, line up for your swine flu vaccine this fall...

    #2 - Swine flu vaccines contain dangerous adjuvants that cause an inflammatory response in the body. This is why they are suspected of causing autism and other neurological disorders.

    #3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine.

    #4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so many people. And that means they really have no clue whether the upcoming vaccine might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're not testing it, either...)

    #5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete immunity against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket immunity, drug companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because they only get paid based on quantity, not safety (zero liability).

    #6 - No swine flu vaccine works as well as vitamin D to protect you from influenza. That's an inconvenient scientific fact that the U.S. government, the FDA and Big Pharma hope the people never realize.

    #7 - Even if the swine flu vaccine actually works, mathematically speaking if everyone else around you gets the vaccine, you don't need one! (Because it can't spread through the population you hang with.) So even if you believe in the vaccine, all you need to do is encourage your friends to go get vaccinated...

    #8 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of swine flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if you don't get the jab -- because it's all paid by the taxpayers.

    #9 - When people start dying in larger numbers from the swine flu, rest assured that many of them will be the very people who got the swine flu vaccine. Doctors will explain this away with their typical Big Pharma logic: "The number saved is far greater than the number lost." Of course, the number "saved" is entirely fictional... imaginary... and exists only in their own warped heads.

    #10 - The swine flu vaccine centers that will crop up all over the world in the coming months aren't completely useless: They will provide an easy way to identify large groups of really stupid people. (Too bad there isn't some sort of blue dye that we could tag 'em with for future reference...)

    Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccine by Mike Adams the Health Ranger
    Did you make this conspiratorial nonsense up yourself?

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    No panic...we won't be getting any vaccine stocks for 6-12 months...at the very least!!!!...we could all be dead of swine pox first!!!!!
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    Around 12,000 u.s children some as young as 3 yrs old to recieve untested flu vaccine

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc8z6hJqSf4]YouTube - AROUND 12,000 U.S CHILDREN SOME AS YOUNG AS 3 YRS OLD TO RECIEVE UNTESTED FLU VACCINE.[/ame]

    this is insane
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    Uh oh, were in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spidermom View Post
    No panic...we won't be getting any vaccine stocks for 6-12 months...at the very least!!!!...we could all be dead of swine pox first!!!!!
    The Irish way eh Spidermom? Like in winter we wait until after the snow falls and there's a few dozen cars in ditches before we grit the roads

    Seriously though, as someone close to the coalface so to speak, is the vaccine situation that bad here? Why the delay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsAnneThrope View Post
    The Irish way eh Spidermom? Like in winter we wait until after the snow falls and there's a few dozen cars in ditches before we grit the roads

    Seriously though, as someone close to the coalface so to speak, is the vaccine situation that bad here? Why the delay?


    last in the queue I suspect....Gas thing is...as far as I know...we paid out a fortune to ensure enough Tamiflu for the last flu yoke!!!....SARS...and now we are not even going to dispense it...apart from those who are seriously ill with the H1N1!!...sure if we have to wait so long for the vaccine.....sure why not treat with tamiflu...no point in trying to tie up the pony once its bolted half way down the yard...
    We all need 2 vaccines to be immunised...if its going to take a year to have all the doses to vaccinate properly...we're talking about July 2010...by which stage(please God....ooppss blasphemy law on my head!!!!)...it will be well over nad we're facing the prospect of something else!!!!!

    ..........Dr Pat Doorley, HSE National Director of Population Health, said that the delivery of 7.7m doses of a vaccine could take place over 6 to 12 months............

    RTÉ News: Two in intensive care with swine flu
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    You couldn't make it up!
    We all love animals. Why do we call some 'pets' and others 'dinner'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsAnneThrope View Post
    You couldn't make it up!


    Aye...and if it weren't so fe8king serious...you'd nearly smile...wouldn't ya!!!!
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