Rogue Pregnancy Counselling Services.

[Electric Sheep]

Feck off dot with your neuve feminist ideology and your "rogue" counselling services.

Agencies with a pro-life ethos are the only agencies that should be permitted AFAIC. "Choice" and "positive options" are synonyms for abortion.

Thanks be that choice and positive options exist, despite the best efforts of the pro-forced-birthers.

[Christine Murray]

l do not imagine that anyone faced with a crisis pregnancy would feel shame given the work that was done over the last number of years through the provision of sex education programmes, the CPA and the lFPA but l do believe that places wherein professional non-directive (and regulated) neutral support is available is necessary. lf the WRC claims to do that then they should be subject to regulation and licence as other agencies are. not all parents are aware of the sexual activities of their kids and many do not discuss contraception and basic safety.

[femmefatale]

Of course all of this is down to rumour, hearsay and anecdotal evidence. It should surprise me that a minister would make a statement based on such 'evidence' but in the case of Harney it doesn't. Is this what we should base our judgment on or does anybody have any hard evidence other than disagreeing with their agenda?
btw Is the charity, IFPA, pursuing an agenda by funding 3 pro-abortion cases before the ECtHR?

I would agree with you. I can't believe how vague the article is. If the journalist in question wants to expose so-called rogue couselling agencies, she would need to undertake some proper investigation and research. It's not suficient to make such claims without backing them up with detailed evidence. Without such evidence, the piece reads as a slur against all pro-life groups, as people will suspect they are tied in with the agencies under suspicion.

[Factorem]

pro-forced-birthers.

Lol. Now there's a lefty sound-bite I haven't heard before.

And why a woman wouldn't want to give birth to her own child is beyond me. (let's keep the extreme minority of cases -- which people like you insist on focusing on -- such as rape and endangerment of life out of it for a moment).

[Factorem]

I notice you didn't address my post about IFPA and their strange medical advice. Perhaps their kind of euphemistic nonsense is acceptable because it relates to abortion services? Do they use terms such as 'removing a pregnancy' in their non-directive counselling? Does anybody here have a problem with that?

Removing pregnancy! Lol. That place should have its locks glued on a regular basis.

[Christine Murray]

l'd like to see a link D Harry to support that claim. l stated earlier that l attended CURA with pals, indeed an employee. it was the only available service giving non-directive crisis pregnancy support and it was excellent. interestingly the crisis pregnancy became not a 'crisis' wherein illness, isolation and fear had played a major part. of course excellence in care comes with adequate training and licence, both being absent from the WRC on Dorset st which is a private non-regulated concern.

[femmefatale]

l'd like to see a link D Harry to support that claim. l stated earlier that l attended CURA with pals, indeed an employee. it was the only available service giving non-directive crisis pregnancy support and it was excellent. interestingly the crisis pregnancy became not a 'crisis' wherein illness, isolation and fear had played a major part. of course excellence in care comes with adequate training and licence, both being absent from the WRC on Dorset st which is a private non-regulated concern.

The journalist would have needed to do a proper exposé, Dot. Otherwise she implicates all agencies with a pro-life bent.

[Factorem]

Thank God the days of liberal post-feminist insistence are coming to an end.

I've a lot of respect for people with open-minded opinions on abortion (particularly with regard to the extreme circumstances), but then there's IFPA types, who are so open-minded, their head seems to have fallen out.

[femmefatale]

Thank God the days of liberal post-feminist insistence are coming to an end.

I've a lot of respect for people with open-minded opinions on abortion (particularly with regard to the extreme circumstances), but then there's IFPA types, who are so open-minded, their head seems to have fallen out.

I didn't think you'd be a critic of post-feminism Factorem? Does that mean you'd welcome a neo-feminist era?

[Wednesday]

So "Choice" Ireland a strongly pro-abortion crowd is angry with people for strongly being against abortion and dissuading people from same and they give their evidence to he most left wing right-on magazine in the country. Hardly proof is it?

That was only one of the examples I gave. What about Newstalk, the Pro-Life Campaign and the agency itself?