View Poll Results: Should child benefit payments be taxed?

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Thread: Dept to decide on child benefit changes

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    Dept to decide on child benefit changes

    The Minister for Social and Family Affairs has said her Department is working closely with the Revenue Commissioners to devise a scheme which might be introduced to tax child benefit payments.

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    I voted No because taxing is not the only option. They are in fact 3 options: taxing, means testing or just cutting the rate. Can we get a poll asking which you prefer?

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    Why not? It is income, those who have no other income in their home will not be taxed. This is a zero sum game, the money that pays child benefit has to come from somewhere, tax. Either this or introduce a means test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    I voted No because taxing is not the only option. They are in fact 3 options: taxing, means testing or just cutting the rate. Can we get a poll asking which you prefer?
    Indeed, we (shoould) all accept that reductions need to be made, it's only the methodology that is up for debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    I voted No because taxing is not the only option. They are in fact 3 options: taxing, means testing or just cutting the rate. Can we get a poll asking which you prefer?
    Cutting the rate takes the same money from someone on 100K pa as it does from someone on the dole. that's hardly fair. Means testing would be a bureaucratic nightmare open to political corruption as is the case with medical cards.

    Taxing is better but I think abolition should be considered. An increase in dole and FIS could compensate the people who really depend on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TradCat View Post
    Cutting the rate takes the same money from someone on 100K pa as it does from someone on the dole. that's hardly fair.
    Maybe so. But to facilitate taxing you will have to get rid of the universality of it. It will still be a legal and administrative nightmare. I for one do not see any prospect of either taxing or means testing coming in the budget. I expect just a straight €30-40 cut per month. Jill Kerby argued this on Morning Ireland as well and she reckons they will go for two successive 20% cuts which will bring it back to 2001 levels and cuts the cost from €2.5billion this year, to €2billion in 2010 and €1.5billion in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    Maybe so. But to facilitate taxing you will have to get rid of the universality of it. It will still be a legal and administrative nightmare. I for one do not see any prospect of either taxing or means testing coming in the budget. I expect just a straight €30-40 cut per month. Jill Kerby argued this on Morning Ireland as well and she reckons they will go for two successive 20% cuts which will bring it back to 2001 levels and cuts the cost from €2.5billion this year, to €2billion in 2010 and €1.5billion in 2011.
    Surely that cut would be more than necessary, if cuts can be made in other welfare payments?
    Surreal discussion, by the way, I cant believe we are discussing this. I expect to be on the Dole myself within 2 weeks,
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    Don't forget that by 2010 there will already have been an effective 33% cut by the time the early childcare supplement is phased out.

    A further 40% cut in the child allowance rate will leave state transfers to parents at little more than a third of the 2008 levels.

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    It needs to be cut and taxed(which really is a form of means testing).

    Cut: 2 elements

    1. cut the overall payment 10-15%

    2 cut the payment for 3rd and subsequent children TO less than the rate for the 1st and 2nd. This means a sharper cut for the 3rd +

    Tax:

    Bring the CB into taxable income taxed at the margin.

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    it will be great when that loathsome gaggle of fawning Marys eventually go, they presided over the most appalling economic mismamagement in health and education in the history of the state , no excuse for the useless Green Mary who clapped as Mary Harmful attacked old people, she's the party bore. l voted *no*

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