One in four South African men are rapists - BBC survey

[Horses]

It's not just an Africa thing.


Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005
In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.

What this means is that every day in the United States, over one hundred white women are raped or sexually assaulted by a black man.

FrontPage Magazine - The Truth of Interracial Rape in the United States

[IvoShandor]

I'd be cautious about this. The black prison population is not proportionate to the population at large in the USA. And not all of this is due to greater crime-rates among the African-american population.
Also,. I'm sure African-american women are the main victims of this kind of crime.

[patslatt]

It's not white South Africans who are the problem - it's black African men - it's a problem in all black and Afro-Carribean cultures. This is one of the problems of multi culturalism the author refers to - that we are brain washed to think all cultural practices are acceptable - they are not. There are plenty of things which were - or are - considered culturually normal in Ireland - like torturing children and giving unthinking obedience to a church or corrupt political party and which other countries find disgusting.

When you look at various African cultures it seems as if women do everything - what exactly do the men do except rape, cause war and rip the country off? Ditto in Muslim cultures?

But violence is a fundamental part of African culture - I don't envy any sociologists trying to tackle that mentality.

It is absurd to say that torturing children was considered culturally normal in Ireland. You obviously skipped my explanation earlier of that secret world of child abuse.

[patslatt]

Not a good comparison. The soldiers (people whose profession is violence,not civilians,) of the Red Army-however abhorrent their acts-were totally brutalized men,living in fear of their officers, facing death or mutilation every single day,numbed by the destruction and horror they witnessed on a daily basis and whipped up into a frenzy of hatred by their masters. For all their cruelty they did'nt molest children most of the time. As bleak as the legacy of Apartheid is, it does'nt bear comparison with this.

And not that this justifies it,they were getting revenge for the 20 million or so Russians and Ukrainians killed in WWII thanks to the German invasion and especially for the extreme atrocities of the German SS.

[patslatt]

Thought ? I don't think so. Just prejudice.

Rape, including child rape, is much more common than you're assuming.
Village - Politics, Media and Current Affairs in Ireland - Child Rape Crisis

Republic of Ireland Statistics | OneinFour.org

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Maybe those stats are typical of advanced OECD countries?

Drunkenness could be an important causative factor in Ireland,especially in the past decade as Irish drink consumption rose to the top in Europe.

Lack of punishment could be another in a "Holy Ireland" that suppressed evidence of rape. However,in the past decade or so,the courts have been giving tough sentences to the rapist male relatives of children raped.

Generations ago,large families lived in very overcrowded conditions that no doubt contributed to rape.

[patslatt]

It's not just an Africa thing.


Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005
In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.

What this means is that every day in the United States, over one hundred white women are raped or sexually assaulted by a black man.

FrontPage Magazine - The Truth of Interracial Rape in the United States

Taking these stats at face value,around 10% of the US population is black American,a lot of people,around 28 million. So out of say 14 million males of which maybe 40% or 11.2 million are in an age group with a high sex drive -say ages 14 to 42- 37,460 of them at the very most committed sexual assault against a white female. That is 0.33% or one male in 330 high sex drive males in a year. Over 10 years,that percentage adds up to one in 33,a significant figure,especially since it doesn't include rape of black females.

Most US crime stats accumulated over ten years for high crime big cities,especially those in the US South eg Miami,Atlanta, are truly frightening, on the scale of a guerilla war by criminals. That's why Americans have become so repressive in using mass imprisonments reaching millions,not that it does much good. WE may have to do the same here if we don't tackle disadvantage in schools that leads to 10% illiteracy and unemployable youth.

[Seán Mac Stiofán]

TV Scoop: TV Review: Dispatches: Rape in the City, Channel 4, Monday, 22 June, 8pm

So, tuning in to Dispatches: Rape in the City (Channel 4, Monday, 22 June, 8pm), we were to face up to this grim aspect of human behaviour and look at sexual assault in Britain and how, depressingly, a large number of these attacks come from the black British community.

Journalist Sorious Samura walked into the dark world of rape - more specifically, gang rape. The police, it seemed from the report, don't have particular record of how frequently this ultra violent form of sexual assault is happening, so off he went to collect the numbers and info from the courts, barristers and rape referral centres.

The extent of the problem was grisly viewing.

Sorious, stern and thorough, talked to people in young black communities, where of course, the problem isn't wholly theirs, but numbers crunched showed that a big portion lay at their feet. Naturally, all the usual things were pointed at as reasons, like gangsta rap and violent movies, but mercifully, a community worker refuted that outright by saying that it wasn't the influence of pop-culture, but rather, the communities they lived in. If this was to be stopped, then those with answers better breach the gang front lines.

Dispatches - Channel 4

Dispatches - Rape in the City - Channel 4

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In the wake of two recent, high-profile cases in which young women were brutally attacked and raped by groups of young men, journalist Sorious Samura investigates gang rape in the UK.

Using data collected from various sources, including the crown courts, barristers and rape referral centres, Dispatches attempts to discover the extent and cause of the problem. Four young victims describe their traumatic experiences, while Samura also talks to groups of teenagers about their attitudes to sex and relationships. He is appalled to hear what the boys consider to be acceptable sexual activity and the fears expressed by the girls.

While knife crimes and street weapons dominate the agenda on violent crime, Dispatches hears from youth workers, police officers and academics who believe this devastating type of attack requires more attention.

Some interesting replies...

I was deeply disturbed by this programme, but not for the reasons that other viewers seem to be. Sadly, the programme was an hour long, decontextualised continuation of the demonisation of 'black culture' and young black males in all it's technicolour glory! I despair. Group rape is not simply a 'black male' issue (although it is one now!); it is a male issue. It is also an issue for ALL in our society. The programme made no attempt to discuss the social issues that create the conditions for these types of crimes to occur; namely the continual perpetuation of partiarchal discourses on male and female sexuality! We live in a society that repeatedly sexualises the female body and constructs women as 'sex objects' and constructs men as dominators and as 'violence objects'. The programme failed to situate it's spurious findings within the wider debate on rape in the UK. Put simply, the rape statistics show that the majority of rapes are committed by lone offenders. Duo's make up the next largest category (at a considerably smaller proportion) with rapes committed by 3 or more perpetrators being very rare indeed. In addition, women are more likely to be raped by partners or ex-partners and by men who are known to them rather than strangers. This programme featured cases that fit the mould of a 'real rape' i.e. 'actions perpetrated by a group of men who select a random victim and engage in gratitous violence against her. This hedious crime is not commonplace and is not the prediliction of or 'a rite of passage for' [all] black males! When will the viewing public cease to believe that the information given in programmes such as these are 'the facts' and an accurate account of this phenomenon?

At long last someone from the Black Community has brought out the heinous and cruel crimes young black people are subjecting each other to, thinking it is funny and cool. However where are the Parents to these individuals who has incriminated themselves and peers of their cruel activities. It would be even better to hear what their parents comments. how can they not know what their children are doing, no matter how sweet they behave in the home as a parent you have to be a fly on the wall. Well done Sir you have done a wonderful job, by showing Black people who has their head in the sand what is happening in today's society.

What a great programme and well done to Mr Sorious Samura for handling such a sensative issue with great insight and frankness.He showed just how misguided young men are today in their attitudes to women and sex in general. What was so shocking was how most of the men interviewed actually didn't realise what is considered rape. He didn't pull any punches and went to the source of the matter. The revelation that young girls were also "setting up" revenge ambush attacks resulting in rapes designed to teach other young girls a lesson was just mind boggling and again showed just how well Samura done in winning over their trust. As Samura point out, the Black community is over represented in these statistics and their attitudes are being shaped by a lack of parenting, easy access to pornography and music that legitimises violence and explicit sex as badges of honour and status. The real silver bullet of the show was the results. The interviews with the victims and their families was the real heart of this show and showed the devestation and pain caused by such mindless violence. I only wished that the show also included the parents of these "Rapists", as we all wanted to see these parents brought to account and explain to the whole world how they raised such children ? This programme was a credit to dispatches and i hope that they make a follo up programme and get this issue higher on the political agenda. Bravo Channel 4 and Mr Sorious Samura.

I have been reduced to tears from watching this programme and feel compelled to do somthing to help these young women. The worst thing is the humiliation these young women have to endure because these barbaric thugs film them and boast about these horrendous crimes! It's so sad to know that many of these young girls don't even report it or get medical assistance because they live in fear! These young black men who feel this is appropriate behavior are sick, i am angry that they feel no emotion or have any respect for women, they should ask themselves how would they feel if it where their mother, sister or female relative that had been hurt in this way. This behavior is WRONG full stop and their parents should instil the values that we all try to instil in our children on how to behave. I know not all black men behave like this, my brother who is currently at uni feels just as appalled by this and is also angry and before anyone plays the race card, i am a black female who was put in a simular situation when i was in my teens, i'm now 30. The only way we can stop this is if you speak up i no it's not easy but we can't allow anymore of this to happen!

[Deise Pride]

This survey is flawed. I mean to ask someone out right if they are rapists? And are they convicted rapists? Or just self professed? And who admits to been a rapist? Seriously?

[Seán Mac Stiofán]

This survey is flawed. I mean to ask someone out right if they are rapists? And are they convicted rapists? Or just self professed? And who admits to been a rapist? Seriously?

Self-confessed.

The survey was conducted by a respected research team and consisted of a rather large study sample (almost 2,000 men). Obviously men admitted to this on the condition of anonymity. Furthermore, it has been referenced on the B.B.C. (which would not do so were it not that it had some basis in fact).

Is it 'flawed' because you don't like the results?