Central Mental Hospital pulls down the shutters: don't call us we'll call you

[drkpower]

what do you mean switch psychiatricsts , one might aswell switch garda seargeants , the psychiatricst in the local public hospital has the final say on an involuntarry admission and she has repeatedly vowed to veteo my cousins gp,s attempt to have him involunrarily admitted , her role is not different to that of a judge in this instance , her reasoning , his problem is not psychiatric but aquired brain injury , this is purely semantics of course and an excuse to do nothing which is of course common in the public sector , my cousins familys wishes are not taken into account on this issue , they afterall dont have any letters after thier name

Bob, no offence, but I suspect that you have as little desire to listen to reason from a psychiatrist as you do from me...

Im open to correction on this but there is nothing to stop you from taking your GP's reccomendation for admission to another psychiatric hospital or turn up to the same hospital when the psychiatrist who has vetoed admission previously is not on duty.

A mental disorder can be caused by a psych d/o just as easily as it can be caused by an acquired brain injury- that is not the issue and your psychiatrist should know this.

Your family's views should only be taken into account in the sense that they provide information as to your cousins illness - your views that he should or should not be admitted are not and should not be taken into consideration - and there are many many good reasons for that.

[irish_bob]

Bob, no offence, but I suspect that you have as little desire to listen to reason from a psychiatrist as you do from me...

Im open to correction on this but there is nothing to stop you from taking your GP's reccomendation for admission to another psychiatric hospital or turn up to the same hospital when the psychiatrist who has vetoed admission previously is not on duty.

A mental disorder can be caused by a psych d/o just as easily as it can be caused by an acquired brain injury- that is not the issue and your psychiatrist should know this.

Your family's views should only be taken into account in the sense that they provide information as to your cousins illness - your views that he should or should not be admitted are not and should not be taken into consideration - and there are many many good reasons for that.

every public hosptial which has a psychiatric unit has a for want of a better word GOVERNING psychiatricst whos ruling is final , when my cousins mum went to the local gp after a disturbing public incident , the local gp already knew about what had happend , had already phoned the governing psychiatricst in the local hospital and was able to tell my aunt that his attempts to have my cousin admitted would be vetoed , anyone who doubts my sincerity on this can speak to me in private

regarding the psychiatricst engaging in semantics by saying more or less than aquired brain injury and psychiatric problems are mutually exclusive , she was playing politcs , i suspect this is because my aunt went to the crowd known as HEADWAY before she went to the HSE and the local top shrink is probably annoyed about this , btw , HEADWAY are nothing but a talking shop run by mostly foreign wooly liberal do-gooders

[spidermom]

Knife attack man committed to the Central Mental Hospital | BreakingNews.ie


Now I realise this is a "Sun" type of headline...but do is it appropriate for this man NOT to be admitted to Dundrum.....(because of cutbacks)

Knife attack man committed to the Central Mental Hospital | BreakingNews.ie


Now maybe they found a place for him....I don't know...but next week..maybe not!!!

[He3]

Knife attack man committed to the Central Mental Hospital | BreakingNews.ie


Now I realise this is a "Sun" type of headline...but do is it appropriate for this man NOT to be admitted to Dundrum.....(because of cutbacks)

Knife attack man committed to the Central Mental Hospital | BreakingNews.ie


Now maybe they found a place for him....I don't know...but next week..maybe not!!!

The Sun will be sure to tell us if harm befalls someone in the aftermath of an unsuccessful attempt to commit a person to the CMH. They are waiting patiently. If it bleeds, it leads.

[He3]

A MAN who is charged with assaulting a garda, criminal damage and other offences walked free from the Circuit Criminal Court in Castlebar, Co Mayo, yesterday because the Central Mental Hospital had been unable to admit him for assessment earlier in the week.

Charges dropped after man fails to get assessment - The Irish Times - Sat, Jun 20, 2009

In evidence yesterday, Prof Henry Kennedy, consultant psychiatrist and clinical director of the Central Mental Hospital, explained that the hospital had 93 beds, eight for women, the remainder for men.

All the beds were full at the moment with a substantial waiting list.

Dr Kennedy spent some hours yesterday in a cell assessing the defendant.

When asked in court if he minded Prof Kennedy giving evidence in court about the assessment, the defendant replied he “did not mind one way or the other”.

Judge Groarke said he did not take this as a consent from somebody whose mental capacity was in question.

From the Times Report by TOM SHIEL and RUADHÁN Mac CORMAIC

[Schuhart]

It begins

What begins, the case for workable legislation?

From the same article.

Speaking after the hearing, Prof Kennedy said section 4 (6) of the Criminal Law (Insanity) Act 2006 was “badly drafted and unworkable as it stands” because it meant psychiatric hospitals received no notice before a patient arrived at the institution.

A further problem with the Act, according to Prof Kennedy, was that it allowed judges to commit people compulsorily to a psychiatric hospital without a psychiatric certificate or assessment.

It also prevented judges from hearing a psychiatric assessment even when one had been prepared.

Prof Kennedy suggested that the law should be amended to allow for judges to request a psychiatric assessment rather than compulsorily committing people to a psychiatric hospital for such an assessment.

[He3]

Legislation alone will not solve this.

[Schuhart]

Legislation alone will not solve this.

True. SIPTU will probably need to be bought off too.

[He3]

Mini Minister Moloney on NN+VB tonight will explain all this to us.

[He3]

One consequence comes to light.

http://www.politics.ie/health-social...-security.html