Kenny rages at HSE admission of €50m contracts "cock-up"

[drzhivago]

I understand that, but legally there would be a case to be made that there was no difference in the care you got. In many cases there is not a private room as someone with MRSA is in it. At least now there is the private attention of the consultant, what ever that means. You will effectively billing the VHI for the same service they would get for free. In fact the doctor would be prevented from favoring them if they work exclusively for the HSE. The thing makes no sense. If there are no private staff and no private diagnostic lists there is no point being private. Who will keep VHI plan B? Its all about access. This is about forcing the private money out of the HSE into private facilities. When the middle classes have to wait in a crappy ward for a week for a CT scan the idea of being in a public hospital will wear thin.

I take some of the points but not all, the majority of consultants with TYPE A will be newly appointed ones

On many admissions a patient may actually have involvement from a number of consultants and thus if a private patient to the hospital all the others in the chain theoretically shoudl get private fees just not the primary consultant

The Insurers are taking the line that if primary consultant is not treating privately then no one can

Hospitals will lose quite a bit of money this way

Insurance companies will save quite a bit of money

People who have private health insurance will find out they are paying for something they cant get in the majority of hospitals

[drzhivago]

Okay so. It has made me rethink having the VHI plan I have. My main reason was to have access to a private room. I have never used my VHI in the 5 years I've had it. If you are a patient of Consultant TYPE A I'd be pretty sure there will be no private room available for you as the patient under TYPE B will be favoured.

If yo are young your VHI or Insurance plan should be predominantly based around outpatient care as you will have regualr need for preventive care, GP visits but little need for hospital care unless something devastating happens such as

• CAncer
• Fractures
• Road traffic accident
• heart attack
• stroke

and with most of these you will end up ina public hospital anyway

As a doctor I would choos the public hospital for my emergency care and private hospital fro routine elective surgeries, hernias, veins colonscopies etc

For emergencies most privates dont deal with them anyway

[An Gilladaker]

M Harney wont like to see Enda in a rage if she join's FG she would expect a quieter life and to get a easy ride not having to face Endas rages

[turdsl]

M Harney wont like to see Enda in a rage if she join's FG she would expect a quieter life and to get a easy ride not having to face Endas rages

Harney is a failure on all counts, if she is lucky she will be just joining her husband on a few directorships.

[drzhivago]

Harney is a failure on all counts, if she is lucky she will be just joining her husband on a few directorships.

with a TD pension, Ministers pension and hubbys pension I dont think they will starve

Unlike the rest of us who have to wonder how we will get by on one pension whose lump sum may be taxed inordinately now if rumours are to be believed

I committed to AVC to supplement my pension and if TAX relief goes it will not have been worth my while
I thought I was being good and helping the state but it seems you have to have €100 million to be able to salt your money away these days

[drzhivago]

To get back to the point of the post where will the hospitals come up with the cash to make up for loss of revenue

that is what has been keeping some of them ticking over in recent years

Can the insurance companies get away with this

[Decadance]

Doubling of health levy in budget or supplementary budget whatever its called brought in €50m coincidence or what?

Govt or HSE screw it up and we pay again!

[drzhivago]

Doubling of health levy in budget or supplementary budget whatever its called brought in €50m coincidence or what?

Govt or HSE screw it up and we pay again!

Coincidence indeed