When Parents Call God Instead of the Doctor

[Andrew49]

Eleven year-old Kara Neumann of Weston, Wisconsin, suffered waves of nausea as she lay motionless on her deathbed, too weak to walk or speak. Kara's parents knelt in prayer beside their dying daughter. They did not call a doctor for help. A few hours later, Kara died of diabetes, a relatively common — and treatable — condition.
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Marathon Country District Attorney Jill Falstad annoinced that Dale and Leilani Neumann would each be charged with second-degree reckless homicide (maximum punishment: 25 years in prison) for their failure to seek medical attention for their ailing daughter - relying instead on prayer - who withered away and died of a treatable form of diabetes. This death and the suffering visited upon 11-year old Madeline was unnecessary and unjustified.

This case is an illustration of the sorts of things that can happen as a result of a culture giving undue deference to religious beliefs and making some areas of honest and fair debate socially inappropriate. The culturally-enshrined practice of isolating religious beliefs from the type of scrutiny we can comfortably apply to any other issue of discourse absolutely has negative consequences.

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[cyberianpan]

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[cactusflower]

I was horrified last year to find that a young, educated family member had delayed conventional treatment for a very curable cancer to use "alternative" healing.

We have had plenty of bogus remedies and faith healing in Ireland. Reiki is another example of a bogus healing.

There must be something wrong with the education system for people to believe this twaddle.

[5intheface]

Sickening in the extreme, most especially because I'd imagine the parents are distraught at their daughter's death but will probably be able to justify their actions to themselves and that level of faith will probably see them through any sentence received. I would guess they didn't come up with the God over Medicine theory themselves.

[Alterego]

Eleven year-old Kara Neumann of Weston, Wisconsin, suffered waves of nausea as she lay motionless on her deathbed, too weak to walk or speak. Kara's parents knelt in prayer beside their dying daughter. They did not call a doctor for help. A few hours later, Kara died of diabetes, a relatively common — and treatable — condition.
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Marathon Country District Attorney Jill Falstad annoinced that Dale and Leilani Neumann would each be charged with second-degree reckless homicide (maximum punishment: 25 years in prison) for their failure to seek medical attention for their ailing daughter - relying instead on prayer - who withered away and died of a treatable form of diabetes. This death and the suffering visited upon 11-year old Madeline was unnecessary and unjustified.

This case is an illustration of the sorts of things that can happen as a result of a culture giving undue deference to religious beliefs and making some areas of honest and fair debate socially inappropriate. The culturally-enshrined practice of isolating religious beliefs from the type of scrutiny we can comfortably apply to any other issue of discourse absolutely has negative consequences.

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That's an absolutely ridiculous example. As Muslims we are told to have faith in Allah but to also tie our camel. What you have highlighted is ignorance and it is ignorance that killed that young girl, not belief.

[marmurr1916]

That's an absolutely ridiculous example. As Muslims we are told to have faith in Allah but to also tie our camel. What you have highlighted is ignorance and it is ignorance that killed that young girl, not belief.

Ignorance of the kind encouraged by belief and faith in a supernatural, all-powerful deity.

[Andrew49]

Alterego wrote:

That's an absolutely ridiculous example. As Muslims we are told to have faith in Allah but to also tie our camel.

Praise the lord and pass the ammunition

[mmrebel]

There has been a number of cases here in ireland where religion has got in the way of medicine Jehovah's Witness forced to have life-saving transfusion - Health, Frontpage - Independent.ie

[femmefatale]

I understand that many of you are anti-religious or religion-sceptic. However, you must admit that using this totally ridiculous story is beneath you and makes you look like the credulous fools you deride.

[drzhivago]

I was horrified last year to find that a young, educated family member had delayed conventional treatment for a very curable cancer to use "alternative" healing.

We have had plenty of bogus remedies and faith healing in Ireland. Reiki is another example of a bogus healing.

There must be something wrong with the education system for people to believe this twaddle.

I dont think it is the education system

I have seen very intelligent people do strange things when they get a terminal diagnosis because they have heard from someone who knows someone that was CURED

The reason this unknown was cured was probably because they had a misdiagnosis and they did not have cancer in the first place

COFFEE Enemas
Trips to brazil for 'treatment' costing tens of thousands of euros all things I have seen in my early days in casualty and it disgusted me

Tried to keep a man alive once and was berated by his family members who thought it was going to interfere with the life saving coffee enemas he was getting

People who are desperate will try anything and believe anything