There is a low nitrosamine smokeless product from scandinavia, (I wont mention its name), but it works quite well with all tests conducted so far showing no increased cancer risk. Major studies would be needed of course.
Its illegal to import to the EU because big tobacco has a powerful lobby apparatus and they don't need the competition but i'm sure if it was on the market a lot of europeans would not be dying of smoking related cardio vascular disease. OP can send pm if he needs details.
"I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual
And cigarettes aren't a waste of money? Hmmmm.Originally Posted by L'Chaim
Anway, the batteries are re-chargebale and are said to last up to a month. They cost a few € to replace and you get a re-charger unit with your starter pack (as well as 2 batteries). And 200 pulls is about a pack of fags so even if you are right (I think it may be more, but whatever) one battery could = a month's supply of fags assuming you re-charge it. Not bad and hardly the waste you suggest.
I tried the nicotine inhaler. The problem is that all it does is deliver nicotine, it does not replicate the sensation of smoking (except the fact it is vaguely cigarette shaped and you hold it like one). As a hardcore addict, I gave up on it after a few days. With the e-cig, you actually get the vapour into your throat and lungs as well as the nicotine hit, so it is much more an all-round smoking experience. I would actually call it an "alternative smoking experience" rather than a "replacement cigarette", but so far it is doing the trick for me. Those in the know prefer to call it "vapourising" to make it seem an entirely different thing to smoking. I think they kinda have a point - it is similar but somewhat different.
Michael, one of the key points the e-cig lobby make is this: the nicotine is not the problem in a traditional cigarette - it is the carcinogens in the burning tobacco that is. So the fact e-cigs have nicotine delivery systems isn't really the point. And besides, the vapour is not primarily a nicotine vapour - the main component of the vapour is Propylene Glycol, as I mentioned in OP.
The fact of the matter is I have absolutely no argument to refute this and in the back of my mind I somewhat agree. It is not impossible that in 5 years there will be a sudden emergence of problems associated with long-term use of these things. That is certainly possible.
But I can say this: these machines have been used now by many, many thousands of people for several years, and I have yet to find one single report of a serious side-effect. As you say, that could all be waiting down the line, but as of the first few years of these things' use, there don't yet appear to be issues.
But as I said in OP, I am not a schill for these things, I've only been using one for a week and ultimately I don't know if they are safe or not. Each person must decide on the cost/benefit to themselves.
Don't come crying to us when you grow a third arm.
A poster of some consequence...
Nicely plugged
Last edited by H.R. Haldeman; 14th June 2010 at 07:02 PM.
I was a 20 per day smoker & quit in January. I used the nicotine patches for a couple of days but ultimatley decided I didn't need them and stopped using the patches after a few days.
There is no miracle cure for nicotine addiction. You basically have to decide you want to stop. That is the secret. If you aren't ready to quit, you won't be successful but if you truly want to stop smoking you will do it without much effort as I did.
I don't believe that the e-cig is a good idea as its basically just another way for the nicotine to be delivered and if it admits to being just that then its a drug delivery system. Do you really need that to get through the day?
You can't beat an e-cig after electronic sex or a big electronic meal....
FF/Greens were the worst thing to happen to Ireland. Until FLabourG that is...
As a 20 a day smoker who would love to be a non smoker-I got the Ecigarette with rechargeable battery + 50 spare cartridges .the cigarette itself is very big and unwieldy .It gave me a very dry mouth and a sore throat so I didn`t stick with it .Apparently the sore throat will go as you get used to them so maybe I will try again -a nephew of mine has had great success with them .Agree withabove poster that you really have to want to give them up otherwise you will always find an excuse to go back
I'm on Champix and I disagree.
Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.
What is champix? Is that the drug the doctor prescribes which reduces your desire to smoke over a six to eight week period?
Yes it is. You're on it for three months, and you smoke for the first week while it's building up to a certain level in your brain. You stop during the second week, but it's no bother. No cravings, no inclination to have a cigarette (not even, or hardly even, at the "trigger points" like after a big meal, or while having a drink), and you're safe in the knowledge that even if you had one, it wouldn't give you any love. Some people have a problem with the side-effects, they're not bothering me particularly.
I've tried quitting before, and don't know what it's going to be like after the three months are up, but I never thought it could be this easy. A good way of skipping the hard bit before the longer-term abstinence.
Nothing will motivate the lazy / apathetic / Americanised / west-British types to embrace their culture and the Irish language.
LinkBack URL
About LinkBacks
Reply With Quote