Why is there no helipad at our only Level 1 Trauma Centre - CUH?

[He3]

The current situation appears utterly silly from a lay persons point of view.

You rightly point out that the helicopters don´t need much more than a few metres of carpark to land.

The vast majority of the pilots are either serving military personnel or highly skilled ex military. These guys can land a helicopter on a fag box. (Without crushing it)

What absolute disregard for accident victims etc. that they are subject to running the gauntlet of Cork suburban traffic for minimum 10 minutes after landing in the real capital.

I know that the govt is trying to boost business for the airport after saddling it with a €200,000,000 debt recently. But this is ridiculous.

Move the carpark to the airport, how about that. Patients first!!

Yep. They would be doing amazing things to the laws of physics to get by road from Cork Airport to the CUH in ten minutes any day of year except maybe Christmas Day.

So folks, the message has got to be - time your accident with care.

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Yep. They would be doing amazing things to the laws of physics to get by road from Cork Airport to the CUH in ten minutes any day of year except maybe Christmas Day.

So folks, the message has got to be - time your accident with care.

I was being really generous.

But this is a serious issue. Lives may be lost.
Southern politicians neglect their constituents constantly. If this were to happen inside the M50, Joe Duffy would be talking about nothing else and it would get sorted.
It happens in Cork and what? Nothing.

[Watcher1]

In answer to your question:

Because FF have been at the helm for too long.

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In answer to your question:

Because FF have been at the helm for too long.

That, and the structure of our political system.
TD´s are not held to account in their localities, especially areas furthest from Dublin. They are here, there and everywhere. Travelling to and from committee meetings and Dail sittings. They are tackled by individuals on private matters of course all the time.
At a local level we have county councils with no money and no powers.
I would like to see a parliament, for want of a better word. Open to the public, where local issues were addressed by TD´s on a regular basis.
It´s the main reason the peripheries of this country have floundered. Bad representation and no accountability of TD´s.

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To make matters even weirder, CUH is Ireland's ONLY officially recognised Level 1 Trauma centre.

Having no helipad is insane!

We could make use of air ambulance services to provide cost-effective major trauma cover to wide regions, making it possible to centralise things into a single centre of excellence! It would definitely improve survival rates if people could get to a serious trauma centre like CUH in the event of a major incident anywhere in the southern half of Ireland, or even further afield.
Clearly the HSE is doing such a wonderful job of whatever it is that it does and forgot about a helepad.

[He3]

To make matters even weirder, CUH is Ireland's ONLY officially recognised Level 1 Trauma centre.

Having no helipad is insane!

We could make use of air ambulance services to provide cost-effective major trauma cover to wide regions, making it possible to centralise things into a single centre of excellence! It would definitely improve survival rates if people could get to a serious trauma centre like CUH in the event of a major incident anywhere in the southern half of Ireland, or even further afield.

Clearly the HSE is doing such a wonderful job of whatever it is that it does and forgot about a helepad.

Well from the answer given to Bernard Allen the HSE looks to have taken great care several years ago to sterilise an area from use as a helipad so that the Mary Harney Memorial colocated private hospital would not be impeded. Years later we have neither helipad nor MHM CPH, though the latter is with Bord Pleanála.

Apart from commissioning strategy studies, and having meetings with each other, the HSE are supposed to be quite good at building buildings. The idea of having a facility that did not actually need any building might have flummoxed them.

[drzhivago]

I was being really generous.

But this is a serious issue. Lives may be lost.
Southern politicians neglect their constituents constantly. If this were to happen inside the M50, Joe Duffy would be talking about nothing else and it would get sorted.
It happens in Cork and what? Nothing.

Not true
vincents -Dublin - No helipad (national liver transplant unit)
Mater -dublin - No helipad (National cardio thoracic transplant unit)
Tallaght - Dublin - dont believe they have helipad
Beaumont - Dublin - Dont believe they have helipad (National Neurosurgical unit)
Crumlin - no helipad
St Colmcilles - No helipad

Few hospitals have helipads which is a scandal

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Not true
vincents -Dublin - No helipad (national liver transplant unit)
Mater -dublin - No helipad (National cardio thoracic transplant unit)
Tallaght - Dublin - dont believe they have helipad
Beaumont - Dublin - Dont believe they have helipad (National Neurosurgical unit)
Crumlin - no helipad
St Colmcilles - No helipad

Few hospitals have helipads which is a scandal

My ignorance has been highlighted.
Question though:
Heli Medivac involving liver transplants in Vincents for example. It must be a regular occurance.
How is it dealt with currently do you know? Is it dublin airport?
Or do they use an adjacent greenfield/carpark?

[He3]

What does the HSE have against helicopters?

[drzhivago]

My ignorance has been highlighted.
Question though:
Heli Medivac involving liver transplants in Vincents for example. It must be a regular occurance.
How is it dealt with currently do you know? Is it dublin airport?
Or do they use an adjacent greenfield/carpark?

I am sorry that was not my intention, just to highlight that very few hospitals have helipads

When I worked in st Vicents there was the possibility of the small dauphin helicopters doing mountain rescues landing on the helipad, the long range helicopters were too big
They built the extension on top of where the helipad was, I thought they would have put one on the roof or else on the roof of the car park but no go there either
Options are UCD, land on a pitch and ground ambulance transport or The NAtional Rehab and ground transport or Phoenix park with a garda escort