According to sources in HSE and report in Irish Times, HSE plans to save over 50 million euro in 2009 by not paying junior doctors for unrostered overtime [i.e. outside 9-5], lunch breaks [while carrying pager] and training grants, all of which are included in their contract. Will this lead to industrial action and who will public side with in tough economic times.
Will we ever see a headline like
Doctors to save money by not paying managers' overtime and mileage?
'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat
i was waiting for this to hit the media - have been getting circulars from the IMO about this but did not want to go on a limb and break the story - not my place! now that it is public - the proposals by the HSE are a disgrace! the HSE aims to save 324M! (no prob with that!)
of these savings 169M (over half) is to come from the reduced payment of junior doctors! make no mistake - this is not a pay freeze proposal - this is a pay cut! and anyone who says junior docs earn lots of money are completely delusional!
I would be interested to hear who the public would support, were there industrial action?
On top of all the other crap junior docs have to put up with, if I was one of them I'd be thinking about going to Canada or France at this point.
I don't think I'd be able to work in an environment like the Irish health service, all the stress, excessive hours (that European working time directive thing didn't really work out did it?), abuse by consultants who hold your career in their hands, abuse by paper pushers (most of whos jobs don't need to exist at all) over inane rules and on top of all that: crap pay
How can you target industrial action at the HSE rather than the patients? A work to rule or something?
As a med student, I will be getting out of this country the day I graduate. Enjoy your poorly-trained immigrant doctors! (notorious for their laxer hygiene)
Not paying for non-9-5 work? Most juniors do 20 hours or so extra. Lunch break with pager = a working lunch for which you must be paid because you are ON DUTY.
Can anyone explain why we only train about 320 docs a year when we train two or three times that many lawyers?
'Personally, I find the notion of changing our constitution in exchange for a loan absolutely disgusting'. - Tin Foil Hat
Exactly, they're basically saying "come work for the Irish health service, do 20 hours of work for free!"Originally Posted by florin
This is from the HSE that preaches to us about incentives for private healthcare? Wheres the incentive for docs to stay in Ireland?
More money for a less stressful job, and you don't have to worry about irritating things like ethics.
From now on essentially and for the next few years, we will be trying to run a first world country on the tax income of a third world country. Inevitably there will be a tightening of the national belt.
Our tax income is going to drop 50-100 fold? If thats true then we should be shutting down hospitals let alone cutting back on payments to docs but of course its not. We will still be able to afford 3 government planes, first class travel for civil servants and storing dodgy evoting machines for a couple of million a year to name but a few things.
don't worry, they usually make it up to them when they graduate....just ask any consultant
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