East Europeans welfare fraud forces dole changes

[Dillinger]

It reminds me of the 80's and early 90's when I was working in the UK (no work in Ireland ). The Irish were working and signing on at the same time, we though it was a great laugh. The boss would even let you off work to go and sign on. I knew one guy from Edenderry, he had 11 claims going.


That was during the "loadsa money" Harry Enfield era. I suppose its ok to rip off other countries, but not to get ripped off yourself, it looks like we are getting a taste of our own medicine BOO HISS. :mrgreen:

[hopi watcher]

These pesky 'non-nationals' again, not happy to be ripping us off they went and precipitated the recession and I have absolutely no doubt that they are behind this climate change stuff too. Time to build a wall around the place to keep them out. We should all join immediately that platform group started by that mad women from Cork.
Any takers that these changes in welfare may be a precursor and a few cuts here and there will follow? Could this be a softener?

[fionnmccool]

That was during the "loadsa money" Harry Enfield era. I suppose its ok to rip off other countries, but not to get ripped off yourself, it looks like we are getting a taste of our own medicine BOO HISS. :mrgreen:

lol but the rules of the game is the fellow doing the ripping-off tries to get as much as possible but the state thats being ripped off has to enact as many measures to prevent this. Its logical. To address an earlier post, anyone crying racist at a simple self preservation act of the state is an idiot. Statistics can show where the most savings can be made demographically and math dont' lie .
I'm not so Christian but I think we should hold onto our Eastern European and Christian friends as boy will we need them during the next wave of Islamic immigration due to EU expansionism.

[FrankSpeaks]

I agree with getting people to sign on weekly as its likely to decrease the risk of fraud. In fact I would go a bit further and do some random checks something along the lines of a weekly 1% sample of all claimants getting a full audit and 5% of claimants would be required to sign on 3 times in one week. The people on the sample lists would be given one week to comply or risk getting the dole cut.

[fionnmccool]

I agree with getting people to sign on weekly as its likely to decrease the risk of fraud. In fact I would go a bit further and do some random checks something along the line 1% sample of all claimant getting a full audit and 5% of claimants would be required to sign on 3 times in one week. The people on the sample lists would be given one week to comply or risk getting the dole cut.

Right now wont most claimants be claiming unemployment benefit (non means tested and no signing on) because of the years of employment during the boom ? How long does that last ?

[popper]

These pesky 'non-nationals' again, not happy to be ripping us off they went and precipitated the recession and I have absolutely no doubt that they are behind this climate change stuff too. Time to build a wall around the place to keep them out. We should all join immediately that platform group started by that mad women from Cork.
Any takers that these changes in welfare may be a precursor and a few cuts here and there will follow? Could this be a softener?

So you think people stealing millions of Euro is a legitimate use of our money do you? And that stopping it is some sort of attack on the working class or some other such nonsense.

[FrankSpeaks]

I agree with getting people to sign on weekly as its likely to decrease the risk of fraud. In fact I would go a bit further and do some random checks something along the line 1% sample of all claimant getting a full audit and 5% of claimants would be required to sign on 3 times in one week. The people on the sample lists would be given one week to comply or risk getting the dole cut.

Right now wont most claimants be claiming unemployment benefit (non means tested and no signing on) because of the years of employment during the boom ? How long does that last ?

Yes you are right, everybody even the long term would be subject to this random check and I would even consider forcing those on long term to do social work. By social work I mean cleaning and tidying streets, public parks or their own neighbourhood and other works of this nature.

[madura]

I agree with getting people to sign on weekly as its likely to decrease the risk of fraud. In fact I would go a bit further and do some random checks something along the line 1% sample of all claimant getting a full audit and 5% of claimants would be required to sign on 3 times in one week. The people on the sample lists would be given one week to comply or risk getting the dole cut.

Right now wont most claimants be claiming unemployment benefit (non means tested and no signing on) because of the years of employment during the boom ? How long does that last ?

Yes you are right, everybody even the long term would be subject to this random check and I would even consider forcing those on long term to do social work. By social work I mean cleaning and tidying streets, public parks or their own neighbourhood and other works of this nature.

Hmm. Let's bear in mind that some of those who find it hardest to rejoin the workforce after losing their jobs are in an older age bracket.

[GlasgowIrish]

Anybody who has a Problem with Welfare Fraud and other crime commited by Foreign Nationals are 'Racists' simple as that

WHO FEARS TO SPEAK !!!

[Norfolk Enchants]

On a sampling of 2000 new claimants they found that 10% were claiming while not living in the country i.e. fraud. Also an earlier sampling of Children's Allowance found an 800% greater incidence of fraud among non-nationals - the fraud level among non-nationals was 13% compared to circa 1.5% among Irish nationals. I have no doubt that the 10% frauduantly claiming dole were predominantly East Europeans.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fro ... 92868.html

YOU ARE A RACIST, pure and simple, your wild assumptions point 100% to this conclusion.

I posted on this same topic without your Racist overtones and scum grabbing anti-Eastern European headline. It is generally people of very low IQ that blame others for their own economic ails. Now why don't you get back to shovelling the cow sh!te.

viewtopic.php?f=88&t=38818&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

I just had a little d!ck PD suggest that I must be unemployed because I'm against making them queue, that is the type of moron that should make it a long way in politics in this country.