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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    You must have dishcloths in there, no wonder it smells - I dont think you quite understood when people told you the brain contained "grey matter" - get them out and get them washed!
    I'm explaining how someone can suggest a 12 week limit for abortions for "choice" reasons while also saying that there will still be medical complications arising after 12 weeks, without being dishonest, in fact quite the opposite.

    How is that being disingenuous?
    It's either disingenuous or very foolish.

    Why on earth would LV want to open another front and give lots of ammunition to those who claim that Repeal will lead to increasing liberalisation of abortion law - because that's exactly what he's implying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    It's either disingenuous or very foolish.

    Why on earth would LV want to open another front and give lots of ammunition to those who claim that Repeal will lead to increasing liberalisation of abortion law - because that's exactly what he's implying.
    Maybe we should take this r e a l l y s l o w l y

    - Do you agree that Savita Halappanavar needed an abortion at 17 weeks to save her life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    Maybe we should take this r e a l l y s l o w l y

    - Do you agree that Savita Halappanavar needed an abortion at 17 weeks to save her life?
    What an idiot! You're determined to divert this line into "I said, you said" as a way of taking attention off what Varadkar has just done.

    Perhaps politics isn't your thing after all and you'd be happier in the drawing room?
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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    So should Savita not been allowed an abortion? How "special" a case does it have to be for a miscarrying woman to have to prove her life is at risk before she's allowed a surgical termination?

    You seem to be saying that you would be against a law that would have allowed doctors to intervene before her life was actually at risk, even though they werent trying to save the pregnancy, because she had passed the 12 week stage. Is that really what you think?
    She should have had an abortion - because it was medically indicated. Now what has that got to do with abortion on demand?
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    Simon Coveney wants the Dail to take measures to restrict access to the abortion pill
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoutingIsLeadership View Post
    Simon Coveney wants the Dail to take measures to restrict access to the abortion pill
    I can't figure out what he's trying to suggest. He seems a bit all over the shop!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    I can't figure out what he's trying to suggest. He seems a bit all over the shop!
    He seems uncomfortable with the implications of restricting abortion under the 12 week mark. He wants to restrict it, but the practicalities of doing so, he doesn't seem to have answers to. He seems to want clinics and motherhood and apple pie...wants the Dail to give better options to mothers, rather than the abortion pill. Grand sentiment, but pretty meaningless. But at the core of it, he is suggesting that the Dail needs to do something about the abortion pill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratio Et Fides View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_SR View Post
    "We don’t have any further details of who, when or where"


    Surely you're not doubting the fairmindedness and veracity of a site with "an Unfiltered Non-PC Nationalist Perspective" cited by R et F, are you?

    O ye of little faith!
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