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    Quote Originally Posted by Dedogs View Post
    in fairness though mate anything thats a sugar free version is always piss....

    Not necessarily, Zero Coca Cola is still quite tasty despite lacking that thirst quenching bite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    It is when you are 18 st 7 (I was 19 st 6 a few weeks ago - 6-7 months will do the trick - the body lives off the fat inside you to some extent). The Fitbit app is helping too. I have it on my smartphone for logging and calculating (for walks) exercise in and out,.
    That is dangerous.

    The simple formula is eat healthy and exercise. At my heaviest (and I am a big guy) I weighed in at 18 stone. I was lazy and only after a 5 mile walk realised how unfit I was. I consulted a trainer (one on one). Technically I am obese, but I am muscled. He developed a program where I found it difficult to eat all the food (it was a lot of food in one day) and trained three days a week, the food was "good" food though.

    After one month I had dropped around 5 inches off my waist, developed even more muscle and to maintain that all I had to do was eat healthily and train two days a week for 30 minutes (which I enjoy anyhow). I currently weigh in at 15 stone have a 34inch waist and a 46 inch chest and enjoy lots of energy.

    Dieting to the extent that you are doing actually shuts down the calorie burning process. You need to speed up the calorie burning process. Once you stop dieting, that will all pile back on as your body will store it as it thinks it is going into storing season. This is NOT a good thing to do... IMHO.
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    F˙cking stupid.

    Simply the latest stupid f˙cking idea from busybodies who want to play Sims with everyone else their playthings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fractional Reserve View Post
    Unhealthy , tax .They already pay 23% on them .Taxation and robbing people you feel are the only way to change behaviour .Typical government lazy response to everthing tax everything.
    Interesting reading from this side of the pond:

    Regulation madness: Philly ‘soda tax’ causes massive job losses, Democrat finger-pointing – TheBlaze

    The doomed soda tax was never about our health - Chicago Tribune
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    The EU has given the thumbs up for this tax.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0424/95...ry-drinks-tax/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    The EU has given the thumbs up for this tax.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0424/95...ry-drinks-tax/
    The reason that there is concern about sugar---as opposed to mere calories---is the huge increase in Type 2 diabetes, even among children.

    Type 2 diabetes is almost totally lifestyle related especially the ingestion of too much sugar and refined carbs

    The ongoing cost to the state of treating Type 2 diabetes is enormous, as it is a very serious disease which triggers chronic conditions that require hospitalisation, surgery, expensive medication, etc

    So it makes sense to intervene early and try to curb the national addiction to sugar
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatsbygirl20 View Post
    The reason that there is concern about sugar---as opposed to mere calories---is the huge increase in Type 2 diabetes, even among children.

    Type 2 diabetes is almost totally lifestyle related especially the ingestion of too much sugar and refined carbs

    The ongoing cost to the state of treating Type 2 diabetes is enormous, as it is a very serious disease which triggers chronic conditions that require hospitalisation, surgery, expensive medication, etc

    So it makes sense to intervene early and try to curb the national addiction to sugar
    it has to be education though , anyone craving sugar would sell their grandmother to get a fix, it wont matter if a bar of chocolate costs 1 euro or 1.50. Also medicine seems to be behind the curve and will still advise to eat carb laden diets and will offer some helpful advise that the patient should lose weight.
    It also appears to be possible to reverse type 2 or at least manage with diet alone, yet medicine seems to go down the drug route very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatsbygirl20 View Post
    The reason that there is concern about sugar---as opposed to mere calories---is the huge increase in Type 2 diabetes, even among children.

    Type 2 diabetes is almost totally lifestyle related especially the ingestion of too much sugar and refined carbs

    The ongoing cost to the state of treating Type 2 diabetes is enormous, as it is a very serious disease which triggers chronic conditions that require hospitalisation, surgery, expensive medication, etc

    So it makes sense to intervene early and try to curb the national addiction to sugar
    It makes sense to take a more judgemental tone and encourage personal responsibility in adults and responsible parenting from parents. But modern culture shies away from this, so we get more and more authoritarian and punitive measures which affect people who are disciplined.
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    I doubt this sugar tax will make any real difference. I'd say we buy maybe 4 bottles of Coke a year, it that. I'm more of a savoury fan than a sweet eater, but my husband would easily eat his way through 2 packets of sweets at weekends and he's very slim. Realistically, if people want to eat or drink sugary stuff they'll keep on doing it, whether or not they continue to buy the same brands or switch to cheaper brands is the only thing that will change.
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