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    Little interest in science education at P.ie?

    Nobody on P.ie commented on my topic below,which I retitled "Top Irish science students came last v anglosaxon countries" to kindle some nationalist pride. Does the lack of a comment indicate a lack of interest in science education by Irish people? This would be surprising given the government's talk of creating a knowledge economy.

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    A knowledge economy. I read recently that there's a company in the Digital Hub (tax break centre for Irish start-ups) who spend their days buying up domain names.

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    Re: Little interest in science education at P.ie?

    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt
    Nobody on P.ie commented on my topic below,which I retitled "Top Irish science students came last v anglosaxon countries" to kindle some nationalist pride. Does the lack of a comment indicate a lack of interest in science education by Irish people? This would be surprising given the government's talk of creating a knowledge economy.

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    why would a report saying Irish students came last, kindle some nationalist pride ?

    Do you think we should pride ourselves in being stupid ?

    The knowledge economy is just a cliche .. means nothing to the vast majority of Irish people and companies
    1,197 people agree with me.. how many agree with you ?

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    Why does P.ie hate Ireland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonster
    Why does P.ie hate Ireland?
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    1,197 people agree with me.. how many agree with you ?

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    One I've finished this bottle of wine I'll be loving everybody, even Irish science education.
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    I admit to having a very poor, basic scientific knowledge. However, I would say that a significant minority of Irish people favour practical scientific occupations, such as medicine related careers. In this respect, there are plenty about.

    When I went to school, pupils were pushed along along EITHER an Arts path OR a science path.
    I understand this is changing to some extent.

    IMHO, education should provide broad understanding. International baccalaureate anyone? An education is incomplete without a decent amount of scientific knowledge. Trouble is, people shy away from it because of the amount of knowledge and understanding that MUST be digested, as opposed to skimming a book and talking bollocks in an arts essay.
    "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." Lewis Carroll

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    Re: Little interest in science education at P.ie?

    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel
    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt
    Nobody on P.ie commented on my topic below,which I retitled "Top Irish science students came last v anglosaxon countries" to kindle some nationalist pride. Does the lack of a comment indicate a lack of interest in science education by Irish people? This would be surprising given the government's talk of creating a knowledge economy.

    http://www.politics.ie/viewtopic.php?t=29249Top
    why would a report saying Irish students came last, kindle some nationalist pride ?

    Do you think we should pride ourselves in being stupid ?

    The knowledge economy is just a cliche .. means nothing to the vast majority of Irish people and companies
    I had hoped that pointing out top Irish science students' poor standing among anglosaxon English speaking countries in science education would irritate the nationalist pride of P.ie readers enough to spark some comments on the topic.

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    Re: Little interest in science education at P.ie?

    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt
    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel
    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt
    Nobody on P.ie commented on my topic below,which I retitled "Top Irish science students came last v anglosaxon countries" to kindle some nationalist pride. Does the lack of a comment indicate a lack of interest in science education by Irish people? This would be surprising given the government's talk of creating a knowledge economy.

    http://www.politics.ie/viewtopic.php?t=29249Top
    why would a report saying Irish students came last, kindle some nationalist pride ?

    Do you think we should pride ourselves in being stupid ?

    The knowledge economy is just a cliche .. means nothing to the vast majority of Irish people and companies
    I had hoped that pointing out top Irish science students' poor standing among anglosaxon English speaking countries in science education would irritate the nationalist pride of P.ie readers enough to spark some comments on the topic.
    OK Patslatt - I'll take you out of your misery. Very few second level students actually aim to take a Science degree. They sort of end up there when their points don't add up. In an earlier post somebody declared that proficiency in Science subjects was evidence of a sharp (er) intellect. Too true - the cream of the 2nd level crop take Science subjects because they find them easy and because they can aspire to getting not just an A1 but 100%. The English exam is often a nightmare for these students simply because the marking is unpredictable. But they achieve their 600 points and then go on to study..... Law or Actuarial or other high points courses. Anything but Science in fact. They wouldn't be caught dead in a lecture hall with students on 300 L/C points on a suitably dumbed-down course.

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    Do ye have good memories of your science teachers? A lot of mine were boring, sad geeks but there was one teacher I had for physics and he was well into his subject but was burned out from struggling through classes perpetually hungover. For Leaving Cert Honours Physics he would 'explain' the topic for the first 5 minutes of the class then go on to the questions for another 10 minutes then he would sit down at the front of the class and chat with the A student lads sitting there about Irish politics for the remainder of the class...You could butt in as long as you had physics questions...

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