Libertarian Ideas

[earthfirst]

thanks pax!

[Pax]

No bother earthfirst.
Danny just because America won't play ball doesn't mean it can hog the game, after all as Morrisey sang "America is not the World".

AMERICA IS NOT THE WORLD

Mod adds: AND MORRISSEY HASN'T INDEMNIFIED P.IE FROM HIS PUBLISHERS SUING US, so don't post his lyrics

[Gladstone]

I don't think Libertarianism, much like communism would work out in practice.

a few things about it:

1. In a totally privatised health service how do Ambulances work, and do they ask you for money in the ER before they treat you?

2. They talk about tearing down regulations what about product quality and safety, consumer rights etc...

3. With no income tax how does the army and police get funded?

[stringjack]

I don't think Libertarianism, much like communism would work out in practice.

a few things about it:

1. In a totally privatised health service how do Ambulances work, and do they ask you for money in the ER before they treat you?

2. They talk about tearing down regulations what about product quality and safety, consumer rights etc...

3. With no income tax how does the army and police get funded?

Libertarians usually subscribe to a minimal 'nightwatchman' state. See Nozick (and more).

[Badnarik_Eire]

I'm starting to like their ideas:

BILL OF NO RIGHTS


ARTICLE I
You do not have the right to a new car, big-screen color TV or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II
You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III
You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all of your relatives independently wealthy.

ARTICLE IV
You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V
You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.

ARTICLE VI
You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and kill you.

ARTICLE VII
You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big-screen color TV or a life of leisure.

ARTICLE VIII
You do not have the right to demand that our children risk their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to fight if you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world and do not want to spend so much of our time battling each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.

ARTICLE IX
You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities in education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

[ryano]

I'm starting to like their ideas:

Given your username, I would have assumed you were already sold on Libertarian ideas.

[Badnarik_Eire]

Well not on all them, but I do like Badnarik more than Bush or Kerry, at least he stands for somethin,