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    FG/Lab position on HSE cost cutting

    Can someone from FG or Labour tell me what either party would do re. the financial position of the HSE if either of these parties were in Government?

    The HSE is statute bound by the Health Act 2004 to remain within budget.

    Does either party propose to repeal this Act?

    If not what do they suggest the HSE does?

    And I'm not looking for impractical solutions like "fire all the managers" etc.

    I'm looking for proposals that the HSE can actually implement without falling foul of employment law or stirring up a massive industrial relations dispute.
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    You want FG and Lab to come up with proposals to save your bacon this early into your term in office?

    Maye you should be looking at what the HSE has done and where it has spent money already in order to see what might be done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKane
    You want FG and Lab to come up with proposals to save your bacon this early into your term in office?
    Hardly - after all, their proposals have never saved their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibis
    Quote Originally Posted by KingKane
    You want FG and Lab to come up with proposals to save your bacon this early into your term in office?
    Hardly - after all, their proposals have never saved their own.
    I guess they could always ask you if you have any spare rooms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKane
    You want FG and Lab to come up with proposals to save your bacon this early into your term in office?

    Maye you should be looking at what the HSE has done and where it has spent money already in order to see what might be done?
    OK. That's one trite, evasive answer.

    Any more?
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    Well for a start I'd look specifically at why there are cost over runs. Why bonuses were paid to administrators in spite of these costs over runs. And why front line staff are experiencing a recruitment freeze but admins are not. But thats just my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKane
    Quote Originally Posted by ibis
    Quote Originally Posted by KingKane
    You want FG and Lab to come up with proposals to save your bacon this early into your term in office?
    Hardly - after all, their proposals have never saved their own.
    I guess they could always ask you if you have any spare rooms?
    Mystified! Tell you what - can you explain that to me? I promise to find it just as witty and cutting as I would have done otherwise.
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    Re: FG/Lab position on HSE cost cutting

    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Can someone from FG or Labour tell me what either party would do re. the financial position of the HSE if either of these parties were in Government?

    The HSE is statute bound by the Health Act 2004 to remain within budget.

    Does either party propose to repeal this Act?

    If not what do they suggest the HSE does?

    And I'm not looking for impractical solutions like "fire all the managers" etc.

    I'm looking for proposals that the HSE can actually implement without falling foul of employment law or stirring up a massive industrial relations dispute.
    You won't get an answer. Being in opposition means that you policies don't have to make sence. The green party enjoyed that for long enough.

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    Re: FG/Lab position on HSE cost cutting

    Quote Originally Posted by John_C
    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Can someone from FG or Labour tell me what either party would do re. the financial position of the HSE if either of these parties were in Government?

    The HSE is statute bound by the Health Act 2004 to remain within budget.

    Does either party propose to repeal this Act?

    If not what do they suggest the HSE does?

    And I'm not looking for impractical solutions like "fire all the managers" etc.

    I'm looking for proposals that the HSE can actually implement without falling foul of employment law or stirring up a massive industrial relations dispute.
    You won't get an answer. Being in opposition means that you policies don't have to make sence. The green party enjoyed that for long enough.
    That's what I thought.
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    Re: FG/Lab position on HSE cost cutting

    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Can someone from FG or Labour tell me what either party would do re. the financial position of the HSE if either of these parties were in Government?

    The HSE is statute bound by the Health Act 2004 to remain within budget.

    Does either party propose to repeal this Act?

    If not what do they suggest the HSE does?

    And I'm not looking for impractical solutions like "fire all the managers" etc.

    I'm looking for proposals that the HSE can actually implement without falling foul of employment law or stirring up a massive industrial relations dispute.

    You're in government, we're not. So quit this cr*p that suggests that every time government has a problem, the real issue is FG/Labour's position on that problem. Because it isn't. Your guys are getting massive salaries, Mercs, advisers paid for by the State, plus the entire civil service to help you. So let them solve the problem.

    You're on the bowl now, you can't go looking for other people to take a sh*t on your behalf.
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