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    Des Quirell Des Quirell is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurlex View Post
    Only the lowest of the low would have any negative attitude towards this woman.
    There will be plenty who will.
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    Is the nation now doomed to burn in hell for eternity ?

    Its really a non-story and this type of procedure should never have become a national debate.

    A mother potentially dying and the un-viable foetus causing the death of both - what is any medic in their right mind to do. Doing something is in fact the Christian act - doing nothing and leaving both die is contrary to Christian logic.

    I bet there are many moderate pro-life Catholics reading this story today and actually wondering how they could have been against such an intervention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picasso Republic View Post
    Is the nation now doomed to burn in hell for eternity ?

    Its really a non-story and this type of procedure should never have become a national debate.

    A mother potentially dying and the un-viable foetus causing the death of both - what is any medic in their right mind to do. Doing something is in fact the Christian act - doing nothing and leaving both die is contrary to Christian logic.

    I bet there are many moderate pro-life Catholics reading this story today and actually wondering how they could have been against such an intervention.

    Are you deliberately ignoring the statement from the hospital that this procedure would have been carried out with or without the recent legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurlex View Post
    I doubt the patient will sue as she obviously consented to the abortion and her life was saved.

    From the Irish Times article:



    On the issue of confidentiality:



    The Irish Times has published details which would be reported to the Minister for Health in any case and which would be the subject of an annual report.
    Yes, but I think there is a difference between a published report on the amount of abortions performed by the state and the giving details on an individual one which skates very close to breaching patient confidentiality and the woman in question might not want to be reminded about the time she nearly died and had to terminate a pregnancy.

    Whoever leaked this should be dragged before an ethics committee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So it appears that the Irish Times have got there hands on details of an abortion procedure carried out at Holles Street

    First abortion carried out under new legislation - Health News | Irish Medical News | The Irish Times - Fri, Aug 23, 2013

    apart from leaving the hospital open to a possible law suit by the patient, they have also left themselves at the mercy of the medical council
    I would hope that any doctor or nurse who has decided to set aside their medical ethics to drive an agenda will also have their employment terminated, if that is the case.

    EDIT : MODS if this the wrong forum , move it to whatever one you think is correct, if there is another thread on this already just delete or merge or whatever.
    What has this to do with anyone but the woman concerned and, possibly, her partner?

    Sections of the media here seem to have very strange ideas about privacy unless their own is threatened...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So it appears that the Irish Times have got there hands on details of an abortion procedure carried out at Holles Street

    First abortion carried out under new legislation - Health News | Irish Medical News | The Irish Times - Fri, Aug 23, 2013

    apart from leaving the hospital open to a possible law suit by the patient, they have also left themselves at the mercy of the medical council
    I would hope that any doctor or nurse who has decided to set aside their medical ethics to drive an agenda will also have their employment terminated, if that is the case.

    EDIT : MODS if this the wrong forum , move it to whatever one you think is correct, if there is another thread on this already just delete or merge or whatever.
    About time the medical profession started to move out of the 5th century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    There will be plenty who will.
    That is the thing that always annoys me.

    There are so many who look for the slightest excuse to hate women.
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    Will somebody explain to me how confidentiality was breached in this case.

    If it was reported in a daily newspaper that an un-named patient had undergone hip replacement surgery, treatment for burns, or a heart-bypass, would that be a breach of confidentiality? Are reports on the procedures carried out by hospitals, e.g., that such and such a hospital conducted two liver transplants, one appendectomy and four joint replacements in 2012, a breach of confidentiality?

    Why are people up in arms over it being reported that what was publicly said would happen did happen.
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    It's wonderful that lives are already being saved under the new law!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Brother View Post
    Will somebody explain to me how confidentiality was breached in this case.

    If it was reported in a daily newspaper that an un-named patient had undergone hip replacement surgery, treatment for burns, or a heart-bypass, would that be a breach of confidentiality? Are reports on the procedures carried out by hospitals, e.g., that such and such a hospital conducted two liver transplants, one appendectomy and four joint replacements in 2012, a breach of confidentiality?

    Why are people up in arms over it being reported that what was publicly said would happen did happen.
    you know very well , medical stats maybe reported annually or by qtr. Its not an issue if in a year's time x no of procedures were carried. Giving out live information means the patient knows they are talking about her. This is media bullying by the IT rag
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