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    FakeViking FakeViking is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by artfoley56 View Post
    apart form the confidentiality breach, the thing that really bugs me about the report is trying to link it to savita
    Would you have preferred the lady in this case to have died as well?
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    The right decision was made. Her membrane was ruptured and she had sepsis. It was either her or the foetus. Her condition was eerily similar to Savita's symptoms.

    The Catholic Church seems to believe that the life of the foetus is superior to the life of the mother. The reality is that at 18 weeks, if the mother died the foetus would certainly have died too. Blinded by dogma they close their eyes to medical fact.
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    I doubt the patient will sue as she obviously consented to the abortion and her life was saved.

    From the Irish Times article:

    The case bears a number of similarities to that of Savita Halappanavar, in that the woman’s membranes had ruptured and she was demonstrating signs of sepsis.

    In contrast to Ms Halappanavar, who died in University Hospital Galway last October after she was refused a termination, the National Maternity Hospital patient has made a good recovery after receiving antibiotic treatment and undergoing the termination a number of weeks ago.
    On the issue of confidentiality:

    To comply with the legislation, the hospital is required to provide Minister for Health James Reilly with the Medical Council registration number of the doctor who carried out the procedure and the registration number of the doctor involved in certification. It must also state under which provision of the Act the termination was carried out.

    The Minister is required to publish a yearly report on terminations carried out under the terms of the Act.
    The Irish Times has published details which would be reported to the Minister for Health in any case and which would be the subject of an annual report.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I'm more concerned with the breach of patient confidentiality than the procedure
    It's poor form, but I was hoping that some of the facts have been delibrately misreported.

    It can't be nice to have lost a pregnancy and then to feature in some sort of grotesque notice that you were the first to avail of the legislation.

    Add to that the Indo's use of Savita's photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    Would you have preferred the lady in this case to have died as well?

    huh? savita died from poor medical care, not being denied a termination

    oh, and im pro choice but savita had nothing to do with abortions
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurlex View Post
    I doubt the patient will sue as she obviously consented to the abortion and her life was saved.

    From the Irish Times article:



    On the issue of confidentiality:



    The Irish Times has published details which would be reported to the Minister for Health in any case and which would be the subject of an annual report.
    The annual report surely won't go into specifics which could lead to someone being identified.

    If you have lost twins in the last few weeks people may well start making judgements about you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Quirell View Post
    The annual report surely won't go into specifics which could lead to someone being identified.

    If you have lost twins in the last few weeks people may well start making judgements about you.
    Only the lowest of the low would have any negative attitude towards this woman.
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    Once these life saving procedures become routine the sensationalism about them will dissipate.

    The focus of those who are pro-choice should be to pursue the legalization of abortion on demand.

    The religious lunatics and interfering busy bodies should not be dictating what women can and cannot do with their own bodies.
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    Absolutely no need for the IT to report this article. If I remember correctly the Minister of Health gets an audit on the number of procedures carried out by the legislation every year. The IT could have then run an article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artfoley56 View Post
    huh? savita died from poor medical care, not being denied a termination

    oh, and im pro choice but savita had nothing to do with abortions
    Fantasy is quite often a comfort when reality is hard to face.
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