roman catholic empire v's amnesty int.

[janepaisley]

i was shocked to hear all amnesty art projects in RC schools are being got rid of, a bit of research reveals why ---

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6750887.stm

The Vatican has urged all Catholics to stop donating money to Amnesty International, accusing the human rights group of promoting abortion.

'Misrepresented account'

The council's president, Cardinal Renato Martino, described abortion as "murder".

"And to justify it selectively, in the event of rape, that is to define an innocent child in the belly of its mother as an enemy, as 'something one can destroy'," the cardinal said.

According to Roman Catholic doctrine, life - which begins with conception - must be respected.

Amnesty says it does not take any position on whether abortion is right or wrong.

But it defended its new position in support of abortion for women when their health is in danger or human rights are violated, especially in cases of rape or incest.

"We are saying broadly that to criminalise women's management of their sexual reproductive right is the wrong answer," Amnesty's deputy Secretary General Kate Gilmore told Reuters news agency.

"The Catholic Church, through a misrepresented account of our position on selective aspects of abortion, is placing in peril work on human rights," Ms Gilmore said.

Some 45 million unintended pregnancies are terminated around the world every year, the World Health Organisation says.

Nearly 70,000 women die annually from unsafe abortions, it says.

[seanad voter]

The Catholic Church allows abortion for nuns who have been raped. I know one to whom this happened in Africa.

[TheBear]

<Mod>Moved to the Health & Social Affairs forum.</Mod>

[Electro]

Obviously. The Roman Catholic Church cannot support an organisation which is in opposition to one of its fundamental principles, i.e. the right to life. It would be hypocrisy for the RC to continue supporting Amnesty International regardless. They have taken an admirable stand, but whether or not it will have an impact is another matter.

In the same way that Trocaire should be boycotted for its highly non-Catholic campaign this Easter, there's no reason why Catholics should donate funds to Amnesty.

[Aindriu]

According to Roman Catholic doctrine, life - which begins with conception - must be respected.

Well they have got that wrong as it doesn't in the true sense as we know it. There is no brain in existence at conception so to refer to a blob of cells as a life is stupid in the extreme.

[cain1798]

[quote="janepaisley"]i was shocked to hear all amnesty art projects in RC schools are being got rid of, a bit of research reveals why ---
/quote]

Bit more information on that allegation? Hadn't heard it.

[smiffy]

According to Roman Catholic doctrine, life - which begins with conception - must be respected.

Well they have got that wrong as it doesn't in the true sense as we know it. There is no brain in existence at conception so to refer to a blob of cells as a life is stupid in the extreme.

Virgin birth, water into wine, resurrection from the dead ...

Frankly, the idea that a foetus should be considered a person is hardly the most stupid religiously-inspired idea ever dreamt up.

[QuizMaster]

Like someone said on another thread about Honest Bert, hatred they can deal with, but ridicule could be the finish of them.

Daftest thing ever.

[Aindriu]

According to Roman Catholic doctrine, life - which begins with conception - must be respected.

Well they have got that wrong as it doesn't in the true sense as we know it. There is no brain in existence at conception so to refer to a blob of cells as a life is stupid in the extreme.

Virgin birth, water into wine, resurrection from the dead ...

Frankly, the idea that a foetus should be considered a person is hardly the most stupid religiously-inspired idea ever dreamt up.

My RE teacher at school many many moons ago got us to debate all the "miracles" Jesus alledgedly performed. We managed to find logical explanations for all of them. Interestingly enough, he was an Anglican Priest and agreed with us!

[Munion]

Abortion is a handy way to get a good supply of stem cells too. Could be a market in it for women who need a bit of cash.