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    Silvio Dante Silvio Dante is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by The OD View Post
    Tell us what child was killed by Marie Stopes?
    The one and only intention of an abortion is to kill the unborn child. The Stopes organisation has been culpable for many many of these killings.

    Its that simple...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hewson View Post
    If the UK was to legalise the use of heroin and cocaine by anybody over sixteen tomorrow, then we should do the same and legalise both drugs here, right?

    Just to avoid our addicts having to go through the trauma of flying over for their fix.
    Is it illegal to use heroine and cocaine? {BTW is it illegal to have an abortion?}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon.D View Post
    There are huge queues to adopt in this country, and with the way fertility is going, with responsibly planned pregnancies happening later in life, it's going to get worse in this respect... So the argument of the effort & resources it takes the raise a child has no relevance in a debate on abortion...
    A lot of women would rather kill their children before they are even born than give them up for adoption. You can't force those women to be nice or to conform t your ideal of cosy motherhood if it's not in their nature.
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    I think everyone is overreacting here. The Mary Stopes clinic can't do anything that the NHS can't do - non-surgical terminations predating 9 weeks.

    Plus, Northern Ireland needs a Sexual Reproductive clinic, where men and women can get treatment and screening for STD's and HIV, contracpetion methods, and family planning advice. It can take up to 6 weeks to get an appointment on the NHS, far too long for such matters. Also men and women can be embarassed seeing their GP about such matters.

    Seems to me that the clinic is geared to preventing unwanted pregnencies and therefore abortions, but giving a woman a last resort choice if need be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sondagefaux View Post
    Is somebody proposing to kill you? Pregnant women in Ireland have been forced to forego their constitutional right to get abortions in Ireland for over 20 years. Which of the rights granted to you in the constitution are you prepared to forego, since you seem willing to demand that pregnant women in Ireland forego that right?
    Have you read the part of the constitution that reads, and I'm working from memory, 'the state acknowledges the right to life of the unborn . . .'?

    What the electorate voted for was the right to travel for an abortion. That right is there regardless of what laws are or are not introduced here. The only justification for abortion is an imminent threat to the life and health of the mother.

    All other circumstances favour convenience over the right to life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    A lot of women would rather kill their children before they are even born than give them up for adoption. You can't force those women to be nice or to conform t your ideal of cosy motherhood if it's not in their nature.
    Yes, but you can make all killing unlawful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvio Dante View Post
    The one and only intention of an abortion is to kill the unborn child. The Stopes organisation has been culpable for many many of these killings.

    Its that simple...
    Sorry, I asked you a question, what child was killed by Marie Stopes clinics? Any chance of an answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angler View Post
    Hopefully their vulnerability will be respected by the anti side , no photo's ,naming and shaming on social media .This has the potential to get extremely dirty and dangerous .
    The vulnerable are the unborn children. Those that take their lives should be named and shamed.
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    BTW, People in the ROI are okay with women flying on the plane to the UK for an abortion, but if they get a train into the UK, it's suddenly a big deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Yes, but you can make all killing unlawful.
    Fine do it and the law will made an ass because overnight the prisons will overflowing with murderesses and their accomplices.
    Ireland will end up having more women behind bars than any other country on earth.
    See how long that remains internationally acceptable.
    You can't follow things through to their logical conclusion can you?
    Your hair-brained morality does not work in the real world.
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